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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

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English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

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Telegram Channels

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https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Zionist entity, which has bombed the Damascus airport 4 times over past 3 weeks, has begun murdering Syrians as well

"Israel has exponentially increased its war crimes against the Syrian Arab Republic and of its citizenry. At 0:145 Damascene time, on Wednesday, 25 October the Zionist regime bombed several “sites” in Daraa countryside, murdering eight soldiers, wounding seven others, and damaging an undisclosed amount of Syrian infrastructure.

This was another double war crime by the Zionist criminals, launching its deadly bombs from Syria’s Golan, which Israel has illegally occupied since 1967, and with the most arrogant impunity.

Israel’s bloodlust is still not sated, twelve hours after its massacre of eight Syrian Arab Army soldiers in their own country, terrorist Israel once again bombed the Aleppo International Airport."

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)


Summary of televised Abu Obeida speech by The Cradle:

Military spokesman for Hamas' Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida:

  • The occupation's aggression and its perpetration of the Holocaust and massacres are caused by the great pain it experiences.
  • We say to the enemy who repeats his threats of ground invasion on a daily basis, that we are still waiting for him to taste new types of death.
  • The time of selling the illusion to the world about the lie of the invincible army and the supernatural Merkava is over, after we destroyed it in the Gaza Strip.
  • We wait impatiently for the time of your humiliation.
  • The curse of the eighth decade will fall upon them.
  • Be confident, our people, that our victory is coming.
    We renew our call to the honorable people of our nation and the mujahideen of the region to consider this battle a decisive battle, and to rise with us.
  • The large number of enemy prisoners we have has the price of emptying all prisons of all [Palestinian] prisoners.

Note: at one point in Arabic he said

الى الزعماء العرب ، نقول لكم من قلب المعركة التي تشاهدون لا شك تفاصيلها ، اننا لا نطالبكم بالتحرك للدفاع عن اطفال العروبة لتحريك دباباتكم لاسمح الله ، هل وصل بكم الضعف والعجز انكم لاتستطيعون تحريك سيارات اغاثة الى جزء من ارضكم العربية الاسلامية.

Translated:

To the Arab leaders, we say to you from the heart of the battle, the details of which you are undoubtedly witnessing, that we are not asking you to move to defend the children of Arabism, to move your tanks, God forbid. Have you become so weak and impotent that you are unable to move relief vehicles to a part of your Arab and Islamic land?

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[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (5 children)

GOP Presidential Candidates Threaten to Revoke Visas From Pro-Palestine Students

“Under the Trump administration, we will revoke the student visas of radical anti-American and antisemitic foreigners at our colleges and universities and we will send them straight back home,” Trump said in Iowa on October 16, falsely conflating anti-Zionism with antisemitism.

. . .

Some GOP presidential candidates have demanded that the federal government revoke funding from universities that allow students to hold Palestinian solidarity protests — which are protected under the First Amendment — on their campuses.

freeze-peach

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I realized something about libs. They deeply unconsciously believe that no one us-foreign-policy should ever be harmed or inconvenienced for anything they didn't personally and deliberately do, and that it's never acceptable to harm or inconvenience anyone us-foreign-policy in pursuit of some large scale goal, with no awareness or interest in material conditions and realities.

They'll never support any serious action because some bystanders us-foreign-policy will get hurt and to them that makes taking any action unthinkable (as long as the bystanders us-foreign-policy pass the albedo test)

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm feeling so productive. Helped a lot of trans people this past week, apparently its that time of year? I LOVE MY PEOPLE trans-hammer-sickle

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

🇵🇸🇮🇱⚡️Hamas-linked telegram group says that a tank was blown up east of Beit Hanoun. Unconfirmed.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Pro-Palestine content creators are being offered thousands of dollars to change their position

https://youtu.be/Vd9orGODd7M

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[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago

Hamas official says no negotiations taking place with Israel

Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdan has said there are “no talks” currently taking place between the group and Israel over a potential ceasefire and prisoner exchange.

“There [were] talks and there [were] political efforts to achieve such an arrangement”, he told Al Jazeera, but there are “no talks” amid the intensified Israeli bombardment of Gaza.

Hamdan said Israeli forces are “moving towards the borders of Gaza from different points”.

“It’s clear that they know they have lost … the narrative issue, so they want to cut Gaza from the world in order to commit their crimes in deep silence,” he said.

“It’s clear they’ve started that [ground invasion], but they’re worried about the consequences, they are worried about what might happen on the ground and they are facing a very strong resistance.”

[–] GodDamnAmercia@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Glory to the heroic resistance fighters of Palestine fighting for their eventual and just victory of human dignity.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Al-Jazeera - Qatar is in the advance stages of reaching a ceasefire deal between Israel & Hamas.

A breakthrough could be achieved in the coming days.

I've seen tonnes and tonnes of rumours about this today. I think it's legit. Combined with the fact that domestically the political situation is turning against a ground operation....

I think it's a real possibility, I'm getting hopeful.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

White House has not responded to report it asked Qatar to tone down Al Jazeera’s coverage

The report by the Axios news agency said US top diplomat Antony Blinken had, less than two weeks ago, asked his Qatari counterpart to “tone down Al Jazeera’s rhetoric” on the Israel-Gaza war.

Reporting from Washington, Al Jazeera’s White House correspondent Kimberly Halkett said the administration has not responded to the report. She added that while Qatar “funds Al Jazeera, it does not in any way editorially shape our coverage”.

“I can tell you that, in my own interactions with the Biden administration, I have had pushback where I’ve been told that our coverage is critical of US foreign policy, and I defended it saying that that is healthy and that is what our job is to do,” she said.

“While there has been no attempt to try and in any way dispute this on the part of the White House, I can tell you from my own personal experiences that this certainly does echo what I have experienced here on the White House campus and in my interactions with the White House press office,” she said.

- Al Jazeera

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[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Holy shit, the arachnids have launched a meteor. All of Buenos Ares is gone. 9 million dead. 12.5 million wounded, that’s about 500,000 9/11s. This is a tragic offensive that only bugs could plan, but also bugs can’t think. So they are both the manipulators of worlds, and scum of the universe. It’s perfect! WERE GOING TO WAR BABY WOOHOO!

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[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (6 children)

some perfectly normal trolleyology from the local watering hole

Here is a hypothetical: Person 1 wants to save lives over a 50 year period but it requires extra deaths now. Person 2 wants to avoid frontloading deaths knowing it will result in a much higher total death count over 50 years. Who is more pro genocide?

brainworms amerikkka frothingfash

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[–] Sleazy_Albanese@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago (19 children)

The galaxy brains of the IDF came up with this:

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)
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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hexbear is a Troskyist website. The News Mega is a Newspaper.

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

NATO is the armed wing of the US, the UN is the diplomatic wing

shouldn't be a controversial statement really

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (11 children)

they should add "supported genocide" to the list

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I was just reading a little bit about white phosphorus. Sounds way worse than say mustard gas. Just one more hypocrisy to add onto the pile that someone like Assad deserves to get bombed for (being accused of) having mustard gas, yet Israel and the US can use white phosphorus with impunity and that’s a-ok.

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago

ICC investigating crimes on both sides 🫠🫠

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"I see death 20 times a day," says 90-year-old woman after fleeing her Gaza home

Souad Al-Alem was one of the roughly 10,000 people forced to flee the Palestinian town of al-Majdal. It was 1948, she was a young woman and Israel’s troops were approaching the community during the Arab-Israeli war in what is now part of the Israeli city of Ashkelon.

Now in her 90s and living in Gaza, Al-Alem has been forced to run again — one of the hundreds of thousands of civilians caught up in the war.

“I see death 20 times every day, in the sky and on earth. Even the force of every blast affects us psychologically. It feels like it is on top of our heads when it’s next to us or nearby,” Al-Alem told CNN. Just 10 miles north of the Gaza border, not much remains of al-Majdal. Once a buzzing market place known for textile manufacturing, it was reduced to rubble after the 1948/49 war.

All of its houses are long gone, replaced with modern Israeli buildings that are now part of Ashkelon. Only the old mosque remains standing. Nearby, an empty, overgrown field gives a hint of the size of the former town.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-27-23/h_f8766b69f25da7f7fd9467857f595170

The full article - She fled the Israeli army as a young woman. Now in her 90s, she is running again | CNN

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Another deranged Zionist who wants to turn Gaza into Dresden: https://nitter.cz/Anna_AnninaEl/status/1717460569601475007

And the dude isn't a nobody but has a rather length Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Feiglin

Let's try to search for, I don't know, "Hitler":

Hitler was an unparalleled military genius. Nazism promoted Germany from a low to a fantastic physical and ideological status. The ragged, trashy youth body turned into a neat and orderly part of society and Germany received an exemplary regime, a proper justice system and public order. Hitler savored good music. He would paint. This was no bunch of thugs. They merely used thugs and homosexuals.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

From Gaza now: Mosques are the only means of communication through speakers. "We have no communication with the outside world. They are using their military might to harm us. We have no power but the power of God, no one but God. Please, pray for us."

vide/audio - https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1718017424791126016/vid/avc1/320x564/lT1ioFspvtCwEsmS.mp4?tag=14

I've never heard anything coming out of a minaret speaker but the call to prayer. In Gaza, they are [sending] an SOS to a silent world.

Nitter

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[–] pillow@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

news mega wisdom from our largest adult son in the 25 august vlog

No blowback is actually blowback. Even if the results are unintended, they are always then turned into opportunities because of the commanding position, because of the ability to act that is monopolized by the United States at the global level. That means every situation can be turned to [its] best interests.

Which is one of the reasons that people who reason backwards about every social revolt in the world as having to be an American op because as it unfolds the United States ends up benefiting from it- is ridiculous, is childlike thinking.

America dominates because any spontaneous and sincere social resistance is going to be unorganized and probably defeated, but the pressure on the state that it creates will persist and can be exploited by the one power that can act: the United States.

Sometimes the United States orchestrates things, when it has to. But for the most part it doesn't have to. That's one of those things that super-blackpilled conspiracy people who think they're telling you deep, hard truths- are actually being incredibly naive. Because they assume that the United States has to have that level of conspiratorial interference going on in order to benefit from everything. Not that its role as imperial hegemon makes that the default state everywhere.

I think the cia probably has fingers in more pies than he gives it credit for, but the ability to maneuver in response to organic social unrest around the world is an important piece of maintaining atlantic imperialism that I don't see people talk about very much

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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago
[–] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

the date is 10/26/23, we are hearing about another 1/10th of a 9/11 occurring in Maine. There have been 30 or so 9/11's since 10/7/23 in Israel alone. Over 100 9/11's since this past 9/11. Even more if you were to count Palestinians. When will the 9/11's themselves wake up to their own 9/11? Every moment has become a worse tragedy since the last 9/11 and every 9/12 before me looks to become another 9/11 stretching into the abyss. Infinite, recursive 9/11. An inescapable cataclysm in which we are all embodied in the large, jet-fuel-drenched towers, suffocating amongst the melted steel beams. An infinite number of passenger jets are crashing into an endless expanse of financial headquarters. I am born each day at 8:46 AM. The world is watching. I die each morning at 10:28 AM as the North Tower collapse before me. The world grieves for me, but I only crave more blood. I open my eyes and I am born again. The date is still 9/11 liberty-weeping

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (5 children)

🟢⚫️🔴♦️🟩 Statement issued by the Palestinian forces: Hamas (Islamic Resistance Movement), Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command:

The five Palestinian powers held a leadership meeting, in Beirut, today, Saturday, October 28, 2023, to discuss the course of Al-Aqsa Flood Battle with the zionist enemy and its brutal aggression against the Gaza Strip.

In their statement, the five powers saluted the martyrs of our Palestinian people and our steadfast and proud people in the Gaza Strip who are facing an organized campaign of extermination, stressing that they are the people of pride, dignity and steadfastness and that they are the people of victory who are loyal to their cause and their homeland, and [the Palestinian forces] pledged to them to continue on the path of resistance until victory is achieved over the zionist enemy.

The attendees affirmed the following:

• This heroic epic is the battle of the entire Palestinian people, which they are waging in defense of their land, their sanctities, their existence, and their right to freedom, against a barbaric enemy that does not spare any of our people from its crimes. It targets hospitals, mosques, churches, universities, and ambulances, and cuts off electricity, water, fuel, the Internet, and cellular communications for our besieged people.

• Adhering to national unity is a main pillar in confronting the zionist war of genocide against our people, as well as rejecting the enemy’s attempts to divide our people or monopolize any part of it. We stress unifying efforts and closing ranks in this fateful battle.

• We call on the masses of our Arab and Islamic nation and the free people of the world to continue their movements to stop the American-zionist aggression, open the border crossings, bring in humanitarian aid and fuel, and remove the wounded from the Gaza Strip.

• We salute the resistance forces in our nation, especially in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Iran, and we affirm that our Palestinian people are not alone in this battle.

• We hold the United States of America fully responsible for the war of genocide against our people as it chose to support, escalate, and participate in the war of genocide against our people, which requires a strong response from the Arab and Islamic countries as well as countries friendly to our people to stop this ongoing massacre of our Palestinian people.

• We demand the opening of the Rafah crossing and the entry of aid, humanitarian needs, fuel, and medical and relief teams to our people without delay, allowing the wounded to be transported to Egypt and the Arab and Islamic countries, without interference from the occupation or any of the aggression countries.

• We call on the masses of our people throughout occupied Palestine to escalate all forms of resistance and struggle against the zionist enemy, targeting its soldiers and settlers, and strengthening popular initiatives of struggle in the face of settler attacks and the encroachment of enemy forces.

• The enemy’s cutting of all access to Gaza, besieging it, and cutting off communications and the Internet completely is a cover for a major crime of genocide that the enemy does not want witnesses to, and we stress breaking this siege with an “official and popular” Arab position.

• We adhere to the right of our people to resist, and its confidence in the victory of our people in this battle, as we fight this battle in defense of our land, our people, and our sanctities, and for the sake of liberation, return, self-determination, and the establishment of the Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital.

Glory to the martyrs.

Healing for the wounded.

Freedom for the prisoners.

Victory to our people and their valiant resistance.

Saturday, October 28, 2023

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