Nazis gonna nazi. Citizenship should be immutable once gained. Especially if someone has revoked prior citizenship; you cannot leave someone stateless.
These fucking nazis running things are not people.
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2025
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I disagree on a technicality. You should be able to give up your own citizenship.
Ok. yes. i agree there. i meant from the “state down”.
It depends on context.
Portugal only has one border, with Spain. Spain is much bigger in all ways, and they don't want people to be coerced into giving up their Portugese citizenship, so they made it impossible. I am basically okay with this
Calling it right now: Mamdani's primaries win made this a priority and they wanna try to pressure him into stepping down, or just revoke his citizenship.
Any other citizens they hurt along the way are just little treats they give themselves for being such good little boys and ~~girls~~non-boys. ^(Gotta protect that research funding)^
While I don't disagree with your sentiment, this memo was sent on June 11th, before the primary.
GREAT! WAY TO PROVE ME WRONG AND SHOW THAT YOU KNOW HOW TIME WORKS! EVERYONE LOOK AT HOW SMART THETETRAPOD IS, KNOWING THINGS AND STUFF!
For serious, though, good catch and thanks for calling me out on that. I was so hellbent on my rationalization that I didn't even consider that things could have happened in a different order or that dates could have had meaning. As much as I like to fly off the handle, I really appreciate y'all who keep me in check.
It's meant to strip citizenship from those who may have lied about their criminal convictions or membership in illegal groups like the Nazi party, or communists during McCarthyism, on their citizenship applications.
While I disagree with denaturalization, I'd accept it if it meant that this reasoning became universal. If you lied while taking an oath that gives you special status, then your special status will be revoked.
Since virtually all Republican politicians lied in their oaths of office to defend the constitution, we could sue to have them removed.
I am a straight white upper middle class American citizen, son of two straight white upper middle class American citizens.
I am almost exactly who the GOP says they like the most.. EXCEPT I am a liberal atheist.
And STILL I am just waiting for the day when the administration announces a new class of people they are targeting and somehow I get wrapped up in it eventually.
They are coming for anyone who is not them.
Same. One day they are going after the pot smokers and I'm screwed.
Remember, it's not paranoia if they're really after you.
this is beyond terrifying.
how every American can be treated like those "illegal immigrants ", and anyone could be snatched, denationalised, and sent to a concentration camp to an undisclosed country. they'll make sure to delete any documentation, so when this is all over, those disappeared might not be found and left to rot in a slave camp.
Fascism
yhea, straight up,
there's even an ethnic cleansing in the US.
it's no longer 'this is going to be like...' it already is.
Start with the illegal evil spawn of DJT, AKA King Taco
I think that revoking a citizen's citizenship should only be decidable by the supreme court, and there needs to be a new trial for every single time the DOJ tries to revoke the citizenship of a citizen.
I think that because that means every triaé must be taken very seriously, and there cannot be summary revocations.
Sadly, that wouldn't help currently. "Citizenship revoked, 6-3" over and over again.
Sadly, probably true. But my idea is also that making it only decidable by the Supreme Court means it will take a long, long time to revoke someone's citizenship.
As corrupt as they are, its still better chance than 1 man deciding it.
Wong Kim Ark decision happened around the same time as the "Separate But Equal" pro-segregation ruling happened, just to give some perspective.
As a naturalized citizen:
Bouta be stateless, since my birth country doesn't do dual citizenship. Thanks a lot, Xi 🙃 (not that I would like it there anyways)
I wonder how this works. In the Netherlands we don't take away citizenship from naturalized citizens if they gave up all other citizenships.
Poor Melania, we all see where this is headed.
At least if she's deported she can't be buried at Trump's golf course.
I still found that crazy. Bury your kids mother (your ex wife) on a golf course, extremely underwhelming grave for a "billionaire" and then somehow not have it mowed when you are hosting an international tournament. Like they had to mow the golf course, the landscaping company is clearly already being paid....
Here's the memo if anyone wants to read it.
It lists a whole bunch of reasonable things to prioritize, but then ends with:
Any other cases referred to the Civil Division that the Division determines to be sufficiently important to pursue.
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