Arturo Gamboa goes to fetch his AR-15, which he has regularly and legally carried at many Salt Lake City protests in the past.
Some "Peacekeepers" (read: chuds; probably cops, definitely cop-wannabes) saw a gun on a guy, and they start blasting. ~~Gamboa returns fire. Maybe? Reports are conflicted.~~
Gamboa did not return fire. Cops lied to us about it. We know it's lies, because words came out of their mouths.
"Peacekeeper" bullets wound Gamboa, and kill Arthur Folasa Ah Loo.
Gamboa is arrested for murder, for reasons.

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 3 points 18 hours ago

That's crazy, thanks for making it easier to understand considering how it was already a confusing situation only made more confusing by all the misinformation and media parroting the police's narratives.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It seems Gamboa never fired a weapon, he ran as soon as he was shot and tried to blend in with the crowd. I haven't seen or heard anything that implies Gamboa ever shot or aimed his rifle aside from the first reports which were put out by the detectives and 50501, which I don't believe we can't trust.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

this

All the reports say he never fired the AR15. This has cops covering for the "peacekeepers" stank all over it. Long haired brown person with a gun is all they can fixate on to try to cover up their recklessness. The fact that the bystander is actually a minor fashion celeb and non-white will hopefully crack open this bullshit story, but this is in Utah, and it will be a tough blue wall.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sounds like the DA is figuring it out and thinks that it will be impossible to convict Gamboa, and that they doubt the account of the "Peacekeepers"

If even the DA is saying that, it's likely this is just some rent-a-cop shitheads with an itchy trigger finger trying to get the local cops to cover for them

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

I have updated my summary with new info.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

okay so the guy with the rifle was not a would-be shooter?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago

Apparently not, but the cops are charging him with murder because reasons

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

tbf if I saw someone running around with a rifle at any protest these days I'd assume they were there to kill people

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The person shot had been at protests armed before, if security was actually familiar with leftist protesters they wouldn't have been so quick to judge.

Image from bluesky of the armed "potential mass shooter"(from a different protest):

[–] WoodScientist@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would assume they're just there to protect protesters from police. Generally shooting at cops is a bad idea, but having enough armed protesters around does cause cops to be on their best behavior. Remember that protester a few days ago in LA that was being assaulted by police on horseback? That's the kind of situation where someone would have been fully justified to shoot those officers, an act of simple self defense.

It's rare for cops to actually shoot openly armed people. They're only incredibly trigger-happy against unarmed people. Every cop knows that it doesn't matter if the law is on their side. If a cop starts shooting at someone that is themselves heavily armed, there's a good chance that cop isn't going home tonight. Having armed protesters prevents police from taking lives with impunity.

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure, but if I'm in SLC at an unorganized protest (or one that was organized by liberals), my first thought on seeing a rifle isn't "I'm glad the people's vanguard is here protecting us," it's "oh shit, a chud is here to kill the boogeymen he heard about on the internet"

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[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (16 children)

idiotic. This is an open carry state where dozens of people are armed. He wasn't "running around" and he didn't have his rifle raised either. There's footage of it. He's just walking around with the gun in a resting position when they shoot at him

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[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Chuds never applied that logic to that fascist cracker that Ill not name

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have not seen any identification of the "peacekeepers" or the one that actually fired the lethal shots. The fact that the cops are charging the younger open carry person with murder makes me think these peacekeepers are cops or cop adjacent.

E: Video: https://imgur.com/a/z3J25EB

The story does not fit with what the video shows.

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"peace" "keepers" "at" 50501 "rally" "open" "fire" into "crowd" "killing" one and "injuring" two.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who are these “peacekeepers”?

[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Event security, I believe

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vaguely reminds me of the CHAZ murdering 2 Black teenagers

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

My recollection of that time is this, someone correct me if they have more details:

One of the people killed was in an altercation which was not related to the protest or in the actual zone, the other person was killed overnight when the group who had been known as protest security, Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club, were not present and there was essentially no action going on, no other claimed 'event security' was present. No suspect was ever made public in the second shooting that I saw, private security hired by businesses were there though and it's my theory they were connected to that shooting. Overall though during that time there were as many shootings as average for the neighborhood.

I just wanted to say this because I've been seeing people connect this shooting to CHAZ but the situation is much different from what I've seen.

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I was referring to the specific shooting to the two teenagers

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/everybody-down-what-happened-at-the-chop-shooting-that-killed-a-teenager-and-led-to-the-areas-shutdown/

But after looking it up it seems like there were around 4 shootings in the zone around that time?

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Ah right, I forgot two people were shot at that incident, one killed. That was where it was my suspicion that private security connected to businesses or the city was involved. A few people that posed as protesters but were hired by the city/some org to co-opt the protest were seen cleaning the scene and talking to police-aligned private security the next morning at the location of the shooting, police didn't show up til hours after and never investigated.

It was that shooting that they used as impetus to shut down the zone, separately there was also a random parked car firebombed in a very suspicious manner on the same block some night soon after.

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

It's almost like random redditors backed by a non-profit suck at organizing. They don't know who is at their protest. They don't know how many people there are on their side. They don't know who is running security, they probably never considered having organized security. They just let randos show up and stake over marshaling duties.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So some frothing chud tried to do a mass shooting at the protest, protestors shot back, and hit everyone but the chud?

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The armed, yellow-vested "peacekeepers" at the Utah 50501 protest in Salt Lake City opened fire into a crowd, hitting two people:

A Sāmoan fashion designer with two young kids, who died.

A second-generation Venezuelan immigrant and antiracist protester who was legally carrying. Cops charged HIM.

Unless I'm not reading this correctly. There was no "frothing chud" who "tried to do a mass shooting". There was an open carry protester, who the "peacekeepers" believed to be a gunman. They engaged him, he fled, they shot at him, hitting him and killing another.

Utah is a permitless carry state. SLC has an open carry ordinance, and protests frequently see AR-15s being carried openly.

This environment makes threat assessment more challenging, which is why having armed "security" volunteers who lack extensive training is an incredibly reckless idea.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ooooh the way it was worded lead me to believe someone was trying to do a mass shooting, wow what a bunch of buffoons.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought the same thing. Now I'm confused and have no idea who's in the wrong lol.

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

The volunteer "peacekeepers" with clearly no training for this situation hold the most blame from what I've seen. According to what I could surmise from reports and photos, they shot at a leftist who was non-threateningly carrying a rifle, in an open carry state where protesters have been openly armed a number of times, before even saying anything to him or warning anyone. He was in all black with a balaclava so I understand why they were afraid, really the blame more falls on whoever let them be "security" for such an event that definitely would have had threats against it from chuds.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah that's how the rent-a-cops and 50501 libs are trying to frame it to get out of any responsibility

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Nope. Principled anti-fascist was armed, lib rent-a-cops freaked out and started shooting into a crowd for no reason and are trying to pin it on the protester who never fired a shot

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Kill all chuds and US domestic terrorism ends

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

bit of a "beatings continue until moral improves", isn't it? You don't fix terrorism by fighting terrorists, you fix terrorism by relieving the pressures that push people to terrorism.

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You could give chuds everything they wanted and they would still be professional grievance mongers for life. We could bring back chattel slavery, keep women pregnant and in the kitchen, get rid of all other genders and hair colors, set the Rio grande on fire with a river of Saudi Arabian gas and make everyone have to wear a flag pin and they would still find something to rally around and cause the rest of us misery

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[–] spectre@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

This is uh, not a productive approach to reducing terrorism.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

this was lib on leftist violence caused by itchy trigger fingers. No chuds involved

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

At thread about it at r/50501 - ?? what’s going on : 50501

A reply

The story is that there were two pistol armed peacekeepers in reflective vests standing by. They saw the suspect go behind a wall to retrieve a rifle. They confronted him, then he pointed his rifle and started to run towards the crowd. One peacekeeper opened fire on him. He shot 3 rounds. One struck the suspect, one struck and killed the protester.

The suspect fled and attempted to hide amongst protesters sheltering in place by a building, but one of the protesters recalled seeing a rifle stock in the suspect’s backpack during an earlier interaction with him. This protester snatched the backpack and called the police over, where he was arrested.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

https://imgur.com/a/z3J25EB

Gamboa is just walking and the peacekeeper just starts taking shots at him.

Totally bullshit story and reckless behavior caught on video.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should make that a top level comment. The MSM has been shit so it's nice if Hexbears can see a well-done vid.

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[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

From footage and other reports I've seen this is like a police shooting and the first reports seem to be designed to absolve blame of the security at the event. He didn't run until after the "peacekeepers" shot him, he didn't appear to raise his rifle. People are saying "he's obviously the guilty one because he was trying to hide!" It was immediately afterwards, of course he would hide with the protesters, he was one of them and they thought they were being shot by a chud or cop probably.

I bet we'll see some more footage come out soon, there must have been security cameras or something else that caught it besides the one super brief clip I've seen.

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