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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

~~The Iranian armed forces display missiles adorned with the images of the martyrs—Commander Yahya al-Sinwar and General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

The Arabic text on the missile in the image reads: “إِنَّا مِنَ الْمُجْرِمِينَ مُنتَقِمُونَ” “Indeed, We will take retribution from the criminals.”

This is a verse from the Qur’an, Surah As-Sajdah (32:22).

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EDIT: I MAY HAVE BEEN BAMBOOZLED

I think this is a photoshop

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/khamenei-says-missiles-not-just-talks-key-to-irans-future-idUSKCN0WW0PS/

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[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 68 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Tim Kaine Moves to Force War Powers Vote to Prevent Trump From Attacking Iran

Warning against "another endless conflict" in the Middle East, Democratic U.S. Sen. Tim Kaine on Monday introduced a war powers resolution aimed at preventing President Donald Trump from attacking Iran without congressional debate and authorization.

Given its status as a privileged resolution, the Republican-controlled U.S. Senate will be forced to swiftly consider and vote on the measure, which would require "any hostilities with Iran" to be "explicitly authorized by a declaration of war or specific authorization for use of military force."

"It is not in our national security interest to get into a war with Iran unless that war is absolutely necessary to defend the United States," Kaine said in a statement. "I am deeply concerned that the recent escalation of hostilities between Israel and Iran could quickly pull the United States into another endless conflict."

"The American people have no interest in sending servicemembers to fight another forever war in the Middle East," said Kaine. "This resolution will ensure that if we decide to place our nation's men and women in uniform into harm's way, we will have a debate and vote on it in Congress."

While I can’t blame anyone for thinking that any congressional vote on attacking Iran would probably go down the same way it did for Iraq in 2003, as someone who was there… I wouldn’t be so sure. In 2003, Americans viewed actual war more like how we think of sanctions today: sure, why not, it won’t really cost us anything. Not to mention there was so much energy towards deposing Saddam and making sure he didn’t have WMDs, and that energy is absolutely not there right now for Iran. AIPAC will of course throw the kitchen sink at this but I think quite a few lawmakers are going to think long and hard about signing their name to what will undoubtedly be a long and costly war that is very likely to end in embarrassment for the US.

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[–] largerfather@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago

haven’t checked in on trumps vocals in probably a year. what a mush-mouth, fucking embarrassing. the cherry on top of this shit sandwich. death to america, death to israel. please nuke our asses

[–] marx_ex_machina@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (24 children)

Maybe it will all be revealed months or years from now, but the timing in the responses of the US and Isr*el feel very strange to me. As people on this site have pointed out, the US has been positioning forces in the Gulf for months now, with all the bombers being transferred in, and then all the staff being pulled out of embassies leading up to the Israeli attack, etc. Clearly the US knew shit was about to go down.

But then, why is the US waiting at least a whole week to step in (assuming they do), or why didn't Israel wait a little longer to strike if the US isn't quite ready yet? Is the US purposely letting Israel get a bloody nose as a casus belli to intervene and turn Iran into another Yemen, like they've always wanted? But then again, why even bother having a casus belli when no one besides the neocons/zionists in charge want to do this at all anyways? Was it all a severe miscalculation? Iran is heavily infiltrated by Mossad, so there's no way they don't know Iran's military capabilities, or the fact that there were people who could replace the officials they assassinated. I guess I'm just confused. Israel is literally built off this myth about being an unsinkable safe haven--getting battered by Iran seems very damaging for stability in the short and long term. I suppose we can only wait, fog of war and all that. It feels like the whole world is waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago (4 children)

i love how trump thinks he's just so clever. like no shit everyone could see your two weeks bullshit from 10 kilometers away.

his raging boner for bibi aside, i think he just likes winning, i wonder if israel is feeding him wrong intel on purpose to make a complete victory more plausible?

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[–] BigBoyKarlLiebknecht@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Situation room pics dropped. Like every blocked artery in the Midwest got together and said “let’s have a go at being president again”. And there he is, sat in the chair, leaking slowly.

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Looks like while clearing a corridor for the B-2 Spirit stealth bombers to bomb Natanz and Isfahan, the US EA-18G Growlers and F-35s opened up some more corridors into Iranian airspace, the US states that they fired 31 anti radiation munitions, targeting air defence radars. Israel has made use of these corridors to bomb missile facilities in Yazd, next to some tunnel entrances, with Israeli jets flying over 2200km via Iraq and Syria. The longest range strike into Iran yet. Yazd is 1850km from Tel Aviv as the crow flies. Israel posted footage of the strikes, likely from the EOTS of their F-35 fighter aircraft.

F-35 EOTS example footage

This is part of why I think it's not over, in just one night using the EA-18Gs (which Israel don't have), the US opened corridors into the heart of Iran, which Israel immediately used. Israel will be desperate for more of this, while they have F-35s, they do not have the EA-18G and it's capabilities.

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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Feels like this upcoming American attack on Iran is the cartoon character hiding behind a newspaper with eye holes cut in it. All of the military assets moving at once while saying you definitely aren’t attacking and Israel is totally on its own and you don’t want to get involved in a war. It just is the exact brand of centrist shit you’d expect from the Trump admin that was like “why would we tell people we are going to attack them!? It should be a surprise!” as if they literally didn’t just try this exact same shit on Iran and then let Israel attack them and then admitted they were lying about negotiations.

Update: I was right and the U.S. just bombed Iran less than an hour after I wrote this lol

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The cops caught Vance Luther Boelter lmao

Edit: I would say go figure the cops would actually put in some work because he was tarnishing their sterling reputation by dressing like a killer cop, but this fucking praetorian thumb was caught somewhere around his fucking house.

Edit 2: fuck all the lying press for presenting this fucking marble bust fucker like some kind of normal person with their photos and articles about him

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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (17 children)

The true wildcard of this conflict is China.

If China truly wields its economic power, this conflict will END in 72 hours, and a truce signed by the end of this week, with American military presence being forced at least a thousand kilometers out.

Like, what are the Western countries going to do if China stops the flow of treats to their countries? The threat of rare earth export is a stern reminder of just how much of their industries rely on China. Good luck trying to invade China.

It’s only a matter of political will.

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[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (8 children)

ETA until some lib fascist uses "TACO" in a warhawk fashion?

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

If Iran does have a secret nuke(s), it needs to test one TONIGHT.

This might be an unpopular opinion here, but frankly unless Iran wants to sit at the negotiating table with the U.S. and likely accept humiliating terms, nuclear deterrent is really the only way it can hope to prevent absolute devastation that will take decades to recover from and exert any outward regional influence.

Maybe my heart is too soft, but I don’t want to see Iran destroyed and a green light for increased genocidal aggression in Gaza over getting to keep firing a handful of potshots a day at the Zionist entity’s infrastructure.

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[–] iie@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

A former CIA analyst is predicting an Israeli false flag attack against the Nimitz, found this shared on the ResistanceTrench telegram

FLASH ALERT: CAPT, USS Nimitz, expect to be attacked as you near Middle East - NOT by Iran, but by Israel with false-flag attack, blaming Iran. Honor your oath to the Constitution: Do not cover it up, as the US Navy did when Israel attacked the USS Liberty

picture of the tweet:

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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Chinese cars and factories flooding EU market, and blows up protectionist tariff system Substack

In the US, the tariff schedules on Chinese EV's were 100%. In Europe, the tariff rates varied, from 17% to 38%.

The EU tariffs, it was believed, were too high for Chinese companies to profitably sell cars in the EU markets, and analysts expected Chinese brands to pivot to more friendly countries.

But China's carmakers doubled down in Europe instead, and exported record volumes of hybrid vehicles, which were exempted from the tariff systems. They also broke ground on major factory projects, which will come online beginning next year. At that time, all that production will be tariff-exempt.

Regulators in Europe face two major problems: they need mass-market adoption of new-energy vehicles if they hope to meet their strict emissions standards, and it is only Chinese cars that build at price points that will attract millions of new buyers.

But they will do so at the expense of European and American and other Asian automakers, who cannot compete with Chinese brands on price.

Good read. This is what I have been saying all along: the US is unleashing the Chinese industrial capacity to start a mercantilist warfare to kill off European industries. Expect to see US finance capital harvesting Europe like they did the USSR.

This is because exports have to go somewhere if a portion of demand is suddenly curbed, and all the exporters now find themselves embroiled in a dog-eat-dog competition to lower their costs to capture an ever thinning slice of the market.

The only way out of this is for China to expand its consumer base and create an alternative source of demand, otherwise most exporters will get killed simply for not being able to compete with Chinese products in both quality and price.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has issued a National Terrorism Advisory System bulletin, warning of potential attacks by Iran or Iran-backed proxies.

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Have we ever seen Al Jolani and Sacha Baron Cohen in the same room together?

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[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (7 children)

🇮🇷🇮🇱| Israel's Kan news: Israeli police will no longer allow foreign journalists to cover news in Haifa.

https://xcancel.com/AryJeay/status/1934677980724216041#m

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Iranian Media: “We evacuated the nuclear facilities a long time ago. There will be no radiation leakage.”

  • Telegram
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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Zionists are positively insane rapid dogs

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Israel's Channel 13: If we attack Iran's facilities with the US for even a year, its nuclear program will not be destroyed.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago

Germany and Russia are evacuating their citizens from Israel through land border crossings with Egypt and Jordan.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The Chinese Embassy in Israel advises its citizens to leave via land border to Jordan ASAP

Likely advising this because flights are closed.

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

F-22s are now confirmed on the way to the Middle East, in the USA's military buildup against Iran

More very public signalling taking place, which is deliberate.

There have also been multiple resupply flights to Israel via C-17 transport aircraft.

Lots of Israeli airstrikes taking place in Tehran right now

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[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

Carl Zha getting roasted by Hasan about China's non intervention stance lol. He called him a lib. Incredible things are happening

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (4 children)

US CENTCOM: "Iran is preparing to launch a large-scale, unprecedented attack on Israel"

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (5 children)

This would explain why Israel are now trying to do media blackout. They realised these are probes.

Only 3 missiles were launched, another probing attack.

Earlier today Iran also launched only 3 missiles at Haifa.

They're clearly trying to see something, idk what. I suspect it's identifying of AD locations or something else.

These are not targeted attacks.

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago

Looks like multiple Iranian hits in Israel, Haifa and Tel Aviv.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd love to say what I think of the publisher, editors, and people in power at the NYT but that would be fedposting.

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Not the Onion - NYT article

A U.S. Attack on Iran Would Show the Limits of China’s Power

China, which depends on Iran for oil and to counter American influence, has a lot to lose from a wider war. But there’s not much it can do about it.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Instead of war with Iran, Trump posts about two new flag poles that will be installed

a-little-trolling : "It is my Great Honor to announce that I will be putting up two beautiful Flag Poles on both sides of the White House, North and South Lawns. It is a GIFT from me of something which was always missing from this magnificent place. The digging and placement of the poles will begin at 7:30 A.M. EST, tomorrow morning. Flags will be raised at approximately 11 A.M. EST. These are the most magnificent poles made - They are tall, tapered, rust proof, rope inside the pole, and of the highest quality. Hopefully, they will proudly stand at both sides of the White House for many years to come!"

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[–] faiz_ahmad_faiz@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago

https://xcancel.com/AlMayadeenLive/status/1936593805760667744#m

Iran: Mehdi Mohammadi, adviser to Iran's parliamentary speaker: Iran's three nuclear sites were not irreparably damaged in US attack

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Macron fears regime change chaos as Trump ups threats on Iran https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fearing-chaos-macron-opposed-using-military-force-against-iran-regime-change-2025-06-17/

But he was cheering "Israel right to defend itself against Iran" even though they struck first. Wtf did he think was the goal

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[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Fuckin zionazis ruin everything, now they've even taken my "footage of israel exploding" from me

I wanna see the missiles hit >:(

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Important to note that with missile launch facilities in western Iran being suppressed, some of Iran's more advanced solid fueled Maneuverable Re-entry Vehicle (MaRV) capable ballistic missiles don't have the range to hit Israel when fired from central or eastern Iran. Haj Qassem, Qassem Basir and Kheibar Shekan-1 don't have the range, so the role these missiles play is minimised, they're out of the fight. Fattah-1 and Kheibar Shekan-2 have the range, Fattah 1 can use the rocket motor on the MaRV to act as a pseudo two stage missile to extend and achieve the required range, despite the stated range being only 1400km, as shown by Fattah-1 missiles being fired at Israel from Yemen, 2000+km range.

This means more of Iran's liquid fueled older ballistic missiles like Qadr and Emad have to be fired. Iran has a lot of these, but they have long set up times, which allows them to fired on by Israeli manned aircraft with stand off weapons before launch, or even by UCAVs at Isfahan. They are also much easier to intercept once launched. Khorramshahr series missiles are liquid fueled, but require much lower set up time due to using a different kind of liquid fuel. And solid fueled ballistic missiles have minimal set up time. Sejjil is a longer range solid fueled ballistic missile, but it's purely ballistic, no MaRV, and in limited numbers.

This helps to explain to low salvo size by Iran towards Israel, even when Iran says that they'll deliver a massive retaliation. They also fire mostly during the night, and at dawn or dusk, to avoid observation from purely optical (no infrared) surveillance assets, like optical satellites or drones.

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Secretary of DHS Kristi Noem was taken to the hospital by ambulance a couple hours ago. No news yet on whether she is vaxxed.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
The Cradle: Tehran vows ‘everlasting consequences’ after US strikes Iranian nuclear facilities

Iran’s foreign minister said on 22 June that the US bombardment of the country’s nuclear facilities will have “everlasting consequences,” reserving the right to respond.

some condemnations, etc etc, then:

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) released its own statement stressing that “Now the war has begun for us.”

Iranian state media reported that all enriched uranium had been removed from nuclear facilities, including the heavily fortified Fordow facility, in advance, adding that there is no risk of radiation leakage due to Washington’s strikes.

Only “part” of the Fordow facility was attacked, Fars news agency reported. “Despite the lies of America’s deceitful president, critical infrastructure remains intact. What was hit was mostly on the ground and fully restorable,” said Manan Raeisi, a lawmaker in the Iranian parliament. “Trump’s bluff about destroying Fordow is laughable. We view this strike as a direct American entry into war. Iran now decides how and when to retaliate,” he added.

Trump boasts about what a great job his big beautiful bombers did, then:

According to Amwaj Media, Iran “received prior notice along with a private communication from the US that it does not seek a broader conflict.” Iran’s ambassador to the UN warned in Geneva on 18 June that Tehran will “respond seriously and strongly” and act “without restraint” if Washington entered the war. Tehran had previously warned that all US bases in the region were within its reach, and would be targeted if Washington launched an attack against the Islamic Republic.

As the news of Washington’s attacks broke early on Sunday, Iranian ballistic missiles rained down on Haifa and Tel Aviv, causing significant destruction and dozens of injuries.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (10 children)
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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago

The supposed anti-interventionists like Bannon are already teasing some fun times ahead this weekend. Everything they say is completely fake, as expected. As soon an actual intervention is on the table, they all become pro-interventionists. And all the anti-Trump Democrats are like "Trump's tweets are impolite, but he should absolutely kill some Arabs & Persians!"

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