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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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Today’s Operation True Promise III videos.

Iranian missiles strike Haifa: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/22/1457033.html

Netanyahu’s aggression against Iran continues making “Israel” look like Gaza: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/22/1455314.html

More on the ground footage from Tel Aviv: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/22/1455804.html

Another site struck near Tel Aviv: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/22/1456056.html

Iranian drone strikes Zionist oil infrastructure: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/21/1453647.html

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Despite all the NYT ALL CAPS HEADLINES I doubt we are actually on the verge of nuclear hellfire (yet). The most NEH prediction I’ve seen floating around terminally online “OSINT”-adjacent spaces is that Trump declares victory (this has already happened), Iran issues a strongly worded letter, Iran & Israel continue to exchange strikes at a gradually decreasing rate until we’re back to where we were in May.

I can’t say I agree with this outlook but I think it’s closer to reality than some of the “world economy collapses on Monday, WW3 by next week” type predictions I’ve seen.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Guardian

Republican senator and Donald Trump loyalist Linsey Graham has said the US president should “finish the job” and authorise a strike on Iran’s nuclear facility at Fordow.

In a post on X he says the deeply buried site “must be dealt with to achieve the common objective of making sure Iran’s nuclear enrichment program ends.” The capabilities possessed by the United States for such a deep underground attack are unique to us and us alone. Overwhelmingly Americans view the Iran nuclear threat as existential to both the U.S. and Israel.” Graham has been a staunch ally to the president over both terms and is known in Washington as a foreign policy “hawk.”

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago

Palestine Solidarity Group Rejects Prize From Danish Red-Greens Over Political Demands

The leadership of the Red-Green Alliance, the furthest left you can get in Danish parliamentary politics, is facing internal backlash after imposing last-minute political conditions on a Palestine solidarity group due to receive the party’s annual activism award. The group, Alle På Gaden for et Frit Palæstina (APG), refused the prize, accusing the party of censorship and abandoning its democratic values.

The so-called Grassroots Prize was to be awarded at the party’s annual congress. But on the eve of the ceremony, the Red-Greens’ Executive Committee issued conditions including:

  • No mentioning of topics debated at the congress in the acceptance speech
  • No representatives receiving the pize must have refused to denounce Hamas in the media;
  • The money should be paid to an account with financial links to International Forum, an independent NGO targeted by right-wing media
  • Prize money must only be used for demonstration-related expenses.

APG declined the prize, calling the demands “undemocratic.” “We do not wish to associate with a party that does not allow free speech or open debate,” the group stated on social media.

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The move sparked outrage among party members. Gitte Christensen, a long-time activist and member of the independent Red Fund that awarded the prize to APG, said: “It’s the first time the leadership has ever interfered in the prize. I’m extremely frustrated.”

Victoria Salo, a Red-Green candidate from Odense for the upcoming local elections, warned the episode risks damaging cooperation between local branches and the Palestine movement. “It seems like party leadership is trying again to pull the rug out from under a gesture of solidarity with the Palestine movement,” she said.

Delegates responded by launching an alternative fundraiser at the congress, quickly raising over DKK 60,000 (RMB 66,000), six times the prize amount. Activists sees this as a rebuke to party leadership.

The controversy follows a series of tabloid-driven attacks on Internationalt Forum and other groups, attempting to link left-wing figures to Palestinian organizations labelled as "extremists" by zionists and western regimes by digging through decades-old associations and tenous social media posts.

In an open apology, party delegate Mikael Hertoft called the episode “deeply embarrassing,” writing: “These are not conditions you impose on someone you’re honoring.”

APG insists the demands were a political loyalty test. “We reject any attempt to delegitimize parts of the solidarity movement,” said spokesperson Bilal Al-Issa.

Asked why the group could not avoid controversial topics in its speech, he said, “Some of the congress proposals, like the action plan on antisemitism, directly affect our work. We have the right to express concern.”

As the Red-Green leadership, seemingly fearful of attacks from the right-wing press, distances itself from grassroots movements in pursuit of mainstream respectability—including support for NATO and increased military spending—it appears increasingly out of touch with its activist base.

“Is the Red-Greens still the party of movements?” asked Christensen. “I’m starting to doubt it. But I hope it is, as it is clearly stated in oir programme in our programme.”

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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Isfahan, you have shocked the world!

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[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

New Zealand halts $16.9m (AUD) in funding to former colony Cook Islands after it signs an minearals, investment and trade deal with China worth $4m over five years.

Kia ore-a bruv

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-19/new-zealand-halts-funding-cook-islands-deepening-china-ties/105435744

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[–] neroiscariot@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (6 children)
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[–] Lisitsyn@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Nuclear Facilities of Iran in Good Condition

Head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) Mohammad Eslami said the country’s nuclear facilities are in a good state.

Asked about the state of Iran’s nuclear activities after the Israeli regime’s aggression, Eslami told IRIB on Wednesday that the nuclear facilities are in good condition.

Lauding the high morale of the AEOI staffers, the nuclear chief said they are stationed in their strongholds and doing their duties steadfastly.

Pride and might are deeply embedded in the Iranian people, as they have never given in to force or surrendered, Eslami underlined.

The senior nuclear official made it clear for the enemy that it will get nowhere through military aggression against Iran.

The Zionist regime launched a war of aggression against Iran in the early hours of June 13, hitting military and nuclear sites as well as residential areas.

The strikes have resulted in the martyrdom of dozens of military commanders, nuclear scientists and civilians and caused damages to the Natanz nuclear facility in Iran’s central province of Isfahan.

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago
[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Feels like we may have entered the "out of air defence missiles :(" phase of this war.

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[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (18 children)

Not news, but highly important for us oldheads in the news mega. Where would you sit?

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Ballistic missile attack against Israel from Iran ongoing as of 21:19 UTC. So far only 5 missiles launched, and all the footage is of one non intact re-entry vehicles breaking apart. But attack still ongoing.

Missile attack over as of 21:29 UTC.

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago
[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Per Fox, Trump is convening the National Security Council in the situation room when he gets back. ~~Feeling like a 10/10 but we’ll see.~~ upon further inspection downgrading to an 8

https://t.me/TheSimurgh313/53333

China has requested its citizens get the hell out of Israel

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151965

Good sign, right gang?

“ US President Donald Trump is reportedly cutting short his visit to Canada for the G7 summit due to “what’s going on in the Middle East,” according to the White House.”

https://t.me/thecradlemedia/37543

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

US SM-3 Block IB booster stage was found in Iran. In particular the MK 136 third stage rocket motor.

SM-3 interceptors are designed for midcourse interception of ballistic missiles, their re-entry vehicles and space vehicles/MIRV busses, while they are exoatmospheric (above 100km altitude). The SM-3 Block IB kill vehicle makes use of 10-thruster variable throttle attitude control system to counter re entry vehicles and space vehicles which can conduct exoatmospheric maneuvers, like Iran's Fattah-1 MaRV equipped ballistic missile. They are fired from US Navy AEGIS equipped destroyers. Booster stages many continue on a parabolic trajectory long after the kill vehicle for interceptors, or the re entry vehicle for ballistic missiles, seperates from them. That's how this one ended up in Iran. It's also how Iranian ballistic missile booster stages end up in Israel.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

IRIB main building in Tehran currently.

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[–] LargePenis@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (10 children)

My mother-in-law is stuck in Iraq, she should drive to Kuwait ASAP, right?

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The IDF is now putting out Gaza and Beirut style evacuation notices for parts of Tehran...

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[–] 0__0@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Well chaps, I want to wish you all good fucking luck in WW3

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[–] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Russia ready to mediate Iran–Israel war, offers to take in Tehran’s enriched uranium – the cradle

The Kremlin's spokesman warned that hostilities are escalating beyond serious levels and condemned Israeli strikes for fueling regional instability

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[–] fever@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Images of custom Spike missile launchers designed to suppress air defenses, equipped with automation and control via the Internet, have been discovered.

Iranian security forces have found Israeli Spike anti-tank missiles inside Iran. Mossad agents are believed to be using them to target Iranian air defense systems and radars.

Source

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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I googled "pizza index" and the first result was ProleWiki. Is it the same for everyone else?

(Well done btw)

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago

trump-drenched : "We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin."

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Israeli Defense Minister Katz: 'Ayatollah Khamenei is Saddam Hussein'

  • Telegram
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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The U.S. tried to set up a meeting with Iran in Istanbul, but Ayatollah Khamenei refused – Axios

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