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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 16 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago) (3 children)

hersh says we ball

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/what-i-have-been-told-is-coming-in

I have been told that the White House has signed off on an all-out bombing campaign in Iran, but the ultimate targets, the centrifuges buried at least eighty meters below the surface at Fordow, will, as of this writing, not be struck until the weekend. The delay has come at Trump’s insistence because the president wants the shock of the bombing to be diminished as much as possible by the opening of Wall Street trading on Monday. (Trump took issue on social media this morning with a Wall Street Journal report that said he had decided on the attack on Iran, writing that he had yet to decide on a path forward.)

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 11 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

Full article; top level summary is that the US is going in and pushing for full regime change, reliant on a popular uprising (fits the narrative we've already scoped out of what the Israelis were hoping for with Friday's strikes):

This is a report on what is most likely to happen in Iran, as early as this weekend, according to Israeli insiders and American officials I’ve relied upon for decades. It will entail heavy American bombing. I have vetted this report with a longtime US official in Washington, who told me that all will be “under control” if Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei “departs.” Just how that might happen, short of his assassination, is not known. There has been a great deal of talk about American firepower and targets inside Iran, but little practical thinking, as far I can tell, about how to remove a revered religious leader with an enormous following.

I have reported from afar on the nuclear and foreign policy of Israel for decades. My 1991 book The Samson Option told the story of the making of the Israeli nuclear bomb and America’s willingness to keep the project secret. The most important unanswered question about the current situation will be the response of the world, including that of Vladimir Putin, the Russian president who has been an ally of Iran’s leaders.

The United States remains Israel’s most important ally, although many here and around the world abhor Israel’s continuing murderous war in Gaza. The Trump administration is in full support of Israel’s current plan to rid Iran of any trace of a nuclear weapons program while hoping the ayatollah-led government in Tehran will be overthrown.

I have been told that the White House has signed off on an all-out bombing campaign in Iran, but the ultimate targets, the centrifuges buried at least eighty meters below the surface at Fordow, will, as of this writing, not be struck until the weekend. The delay has come at Trump’s insistence because the president wants the shock of the bombing to be diminished as much as possible by the opening of Wall Street trading on Monday. (Trump took issue on social media this morning with a Wall Street Journal report that said he had decided on the attack on Iran, writing that he had yet to decide on a path forward.)

Fordow is home to the remaining majority of Iran’s most advanced centrifuges that have produced, according to recent reports of the International Atomic Energy Agency, to which Iran is a signatory, nine hundred pounds of uranium enriched to 60 percent, a short step from weapons-grade levels.

The most recent Israeli bombing attacks on Iran have made no attempts to destroy the centrifuges at Fordow, which are stored at least eighty meters underground. It has been agreed, as of Wednesday, that US bombers carrying bunker bombs capable of penetrating to that depth, will begin attacking the Fordow facility this weekend.

The delay will give US military assets throughout the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean—there are more than two dozen US Air Force bases and Navy ports in the region—a chance to prepare for possible Iranian retaliation. The assumption is that Iran still has some missile and air force capability that will be on US bombing lists. “This is a chance to do away with this regime once and for all,” an informed official told me today, “and so we might as well go big.” He said, however, “that it will not be carpet bombing.”

The planned weekend bombing will also have new targets: the bases of the Republican Guards, which have countered those campaigning against the revolutionary leadership since the violent overthrow of the shah of Iran in early 1979.

The Israeli leadership under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hopes that the bombings will provide “the means of creating an uprising” against Iran’s current regime, which has shown little tolerance for those who defy the religious leadership and its edicts. Iranian police stations will be struck. Government offices that house files on suspected dissenters in Iran will also be attacked.

The Israelis apparently also hope, so I gather, that Khamenei will flee the country and not make a stand until the end. I was told that his personal plane left Tehran airport headed for Oman early Wednesday morning, accompanied by two fighter planes, but it is not known whether he was aboard.

Only two thirds of Iran’s population of 90 million are Persians. The largest minority groups include Azeris, many of whom have long-standing covert ties to the Central Intelligence Agency, Kurds, Arabs, and Baluchis. Jews make up a small minority group there, too. (Azerbaijan is the site of a large secret CIA base for operations in Iran.)

Bringing back the shah’s son, now living in exile in near Washington, has never been considered by the American and Israeli planners, I was told. But there has been talk among the White House planning group that includes Vice President J.D. Vance, of installing a moderate religious leader to run the country if Khamenei is deposed. The Israelis bitterly objected to the idea. “They don’t give a shit on the religious issue, but demand a political puppet to control,” the longtime US official said. “We are split with the Izzies on this. Result would be permanent hostility and future conflict in perpetuity, Bibi desperately trying to draw US in as their ally against all things Muslim, using the plight of the citizens as propaganda bait.”

There is the hope in the American and Israeli intelligence communities, I was told, that elements of the Azeri community will join in a popular revolt against the ruling regime, should one develop during the continued Israeli bombing. There also is the thought that some members of the Revolutionary Guard would join in what I was told might be “a democratic uprising against the ayatollahs”—a long-held aspiration of the US government. The sudden and successful overthrow of Bashar al-Assad in Syria was cited as a potential model, although Assad’s demise came after a long civil war.

It is possible that the result of the massive Israeli and US bombing attack could leave Iran in a state of permanent failure, as happened after the Western intervention in Libya in 2011. That revolt resulted in the brutal murder of Muammar Gaddafi, who had kept the disparate tribes there under control. The futures of Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon, all victims of repeated outside attacks, are far from settled.

Donald Trump clearly wants an international win he can market. To accomplish that, he and Netanyahu are taking America to places it has never been.

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 5 points 4 minutes ago

Wonderful. Regime change. Always goes well.

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 5 points 21 minutes ago (2 children)

I'm not about to subscribe. Text pls.

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 5 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

I posted the full article above just FYI

[–] SupFBI@hexbear.net 3 points 10 minutes ago
[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 7 points 16 minutes ago

trump is never not playing the markets

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 17 points 23 minutes ago (3 children)

when you've been offline for a few days and when you return the news comm is at 3600 comments stress

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 9 points 10 minutes ago

When you come back and almost a decade has passed. lenin-confused

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 3 points 8 minutes ago
[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 11 points 13 minutes ago (2 children)

I'm at the lathe, boys. Tell me what to determine.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 8 points 10 minutes ago (1 children)

Huge steam sale. 90% off top games.

[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 5 points 4 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm anti-Steam too, sorry.

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 5 points 7 minutes ago (1 children)

Sink some aircraft carriers

[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 5 points 6 minutes ago

A false flag on the Nimitz is 100% going to happen now. I bet another post on it.

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 27 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Lots of airstrikes in Tehran right now being reported. Israeli aircraft audible over Kermanshah on video.

[–] Test_Tickles@hexbear.net 10 points 43 minutes ago (2 children)

is Iran able to respond to these airstrikes or are their air defenses so suppressed when Israel attacks that they can't do anything at all?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 8 points 30 minutes ago

They are hitting with pretty long distance strikes. Kermanshah is right over the border of Iran, and they are hitting Tehran from there. They only have suppressed anti-air right on the border

Iran is shooting down lots of missiles and drones (confirmed), as well as jets (they claim, still unconfirmed). Their anti-air is working, it’s just not dense enough to completely cover all of Iran with 100% interception

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 2 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 30 seconds ago)

Most of the videos of Iranian air defence show them shooting anti aircraft gunfire at the missiles or bombs incoming. They have Swiss made radar aim assisted anti aircraft guns. The manned aircraft Israel uses will be flying too high to be hit by this though.

The SPICE 250 and 1000 glide bombs have a maximum range of 100km, SPICE 2000 60km, and JDAMs 24km. There's photos and videos of all of these used in Tehran. So Israeli aircraft are flying quite far into western Iranian airspace. Popeye missile has a range of 78 km. I include this because both Popeye and SPICE use the same human in the loop TV guidance interface as far as I know. Then there's the Delilah cruise missile/loitering munition, which has a range of 250-300km and is usually used to find the location of and take out longer range surface to air missile systems, in the absence of Israel having specialised aircraft for this role like the EA-18G Growler. It has a different human in the loop TV guidance interface.

[–] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 42 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

“When our turn comes, we shall make no excuse for the terror.”

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 9 points 34 minutes ago (1 children)

No we should make excuses FOR THE LACK OF TERROR

(ok, that might get get redacted)

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 8 points 26 minutes ago

We're running out of excuses for the lack of terror

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 45 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

With the use of a ballistic missile with early release submissions (ERS) confirmed, with the warhead apparently releasing it's submunitions at between 7-8km altitude, and the submunitions dispersing over a wide area with a diameter of 8km, it changes things a bit. Conclusions:

  • Iran has little interest in counterforce targeting, weapons like this are rare and costly and would usually be reserved for airfields and the like.

  • It's a significant escalation to fire this at a population centre, a diameter of 8km for the submunition spread when is massive, there's no argument to say that you're targeting a military installation inside the population centre and the missile missed. This was probably done/chosen in response to Israel destroying the inactive Arak heavy water nuclear reactor.

  • Israel will likely respond with some airstrikes on energy infrastructure again I assume. Maybe something else. There's a reason Yemen haven't fired one of these ERS equipped missiles at Israel yet. Combined with the direct hit on a hospital, they'll respond with something that they can show their population at home.

  • It explains the firing of dozens of David's Sling Stunner interceptors, or Iron Dome Tamir interceptors, or a combination of both, in a single location, likely trying to hit all the submunitions. The submunitions are probably flying slow enough to be hit by the Tamir. Firing missiles equipped with submunitions could be seen as a way to try drain these interceptor stocks for these systems. No effect on Arrow 2, THAAD, Arrow 3 and SM-3 though vs any other missile.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 18 points 52 minutes ago

rain terror upon the entity

[–] HoiPolloi@hexbear.net 6 points 33 minutes ago

My best guess it that they see it as a way of making the Israelis waste interceptor missiles and keep Israeli civilians in shelters. If I was in the Iran position, I'd wait till the Israelis have as few missile defences as possible before using my best weapons on military targets.

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 38 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

iran please strike intel factory in pissrael

I don't remember too much details but I remember it was forced by usa to invest in isntreal to boost isfake's reputation. they were not making processors of any value rn, especially at israhell. bombing them could even force american companies to drop anti boycot laws. who wants a factory near warzone

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 25 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Intel has been ass recently even without its investments into the entity.

Give em one from me, Ayatollah

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 18 points 1 hour ago

No need to target Intel factories, their CPUs already have a built-in self destruct.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 39 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Colombian Senate approves Petro's labor reform. On Tuesday, the Colombian Senate approved President Gustavo Petro's labor reform bill, which was rejected in April and revived after the leftist president held a popular consultation to put his proposal to a vote. The upper house approved the reform with 57 votes in favor and 31 against.

The bill included all the key points that the Petro government considers vital. The labor bill is one of the flagship reforms of Petro, a former guerrilla who was elected Colombia's first left-wing president in 2022. The initiative calls for the working day to end at 6pm and not 9pm, as is currently the case, for some informal jobs to have access to Social Security and for a special fund to be set up to guarantee pensions for peasants, among other points.

The text was approved in the absence of opposition senator Miguel Uribe, a pre-candidate for the presidency, who has been hospitalized in critical condition for over a week after being shot during a campaign event in Bogotá. In Tuesday's session, senators rejected for the second time a government initiative to have Colombians decide at the ballot box on the future of the labor reform, proposed when the Senate failed to adopt an initial legislative bill on the issue in April.

But Petro, who by decree last weekend called for a popular consultation with 12 questions on the labor reform, insisted that the measure “remains in force” until Congress approves the government's bill. As the text approved by the Senate has some changes compared to the one adopted last October by the Chamber of Deputies, there now remains the conciliation procedure between the two chambers. The Constitutional Court has yet to rule on the legality of calling the consultation by decree, scheduled for August 7.

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[–] Autonomarx@hexbear.net 16 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Petro's administration gives me hope that it's possible for leftists to address climate collapse even within the framework of bourgeois democracy. Hopefully the rest of the Global South follows suit with coalitions like his

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 4 points 19 minutes ago

I may be wrong, but his current position in Congress is bad (I think it's the same as Lula da Silva's or even worse), he has support from the left and some liberals, but apparently his popularity is not so good (even Lula has better popularity than him, although Lula has pushed some neoliberal things). The difference is that the Colombian Supreme Court keeps attacking Petro and taking down all his reforms and laws, while the Brazilian Supreme Court generally doesn't care about Lula and its problem is with Bolsonaro and Congress.

We'll see how Petro does in the next election, but I'm afraid that if the right wins the elections in Colombia again, they'll undo everything Petro has done, and the liberals will help them. I would say the same about Lula and Arce.

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