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Two-time loser! Will there be a 3rd attempt?
An intelligent politician would recognize that expending political capital on a 3rd failed attempt would undermine their future. So.... yes,
We're still 12 tries off the record. If your gonna fail a vote you might as well go for gold
Took how many for McCarthy? 15? I'd say good old Jimuary 6th would be good for at least 20.
I laugh every time they add “Honorable” before his name
I feel like those people are voting for someone entirely different
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How shocking, he's such a unifying figure too
I'd be curious to see a list of Republicans who voted No.
The insanity of the GOP is clearly demonstrated by the fact that they put Jim Jordan up for vote in the first place.
"Intense lobbying" is a weird way to describe threatening the holdouts, the wives of the holdouts, and even issuing death threats.
Brians. McCarthy . . . Dumbass!
I know I keep harping on about this, but this whole problem could be easily solved if they just elected Hakeem Jeffries speaker. Just takes what, five Republican votes?
If you're a GOP representative and you break ranks to elect a democrat speaker, you're either changing your party affiliation or you're retiring from politics forever.
In the current climate, crossing the aisle is a political death sentence for Republicans.
It might even be an actual death sentence.
It only takes one lunatic with a gun who takes the traitor rhetoric seriously to kill someone. And look how crazy they're getting with people not voting for a republican. Actually voting for a democrat would magnify that massively.
When are the dems going to pull the vulnerable to the left moderate republicans aside and convince them into a lights on coalition?
If 5 of them want to vote for Jeffries then they can do so in any of these elections. I don't know that it's a good idea for Democrats to help vote any of the current house Republicans into the speaker role.
Aisle crossing credit, and having moderates on side boosts the odds funding bills can go through without the loons from the far right getting their shit all over it
Jordan is practically the definition of a far right loon though. He just thinks he’s smarter than the rest of them because he knows more big words and they conflate talking fast with intelligence.
This is what the radical right wants anyways, a government unable to act.
I do not see this ending without enough moderate Republicans voting for a Dem speaker.
Unless some that are moderate make it clear that unless a moderate speaker is elected, they will vote with Dems. Do the same thing to the far right that they are doing. The problem for the far right is they say us or nothing. The moderates can say us or them so aren't painted into a corner in the same way.
Obviously, they could do this publicly, but they risk attacks from the right of they do. Doing so privately would be less of a risk, but with bigger upside as obviously they then jump to being a larger part of the party, the government, the nation.
It just seems that none are that brave or want to be speaker. I'd so, why are the in politics?
You don't even need them to vote with the Dems, you can just find a handful of middle of the road R's and say "we'd rather have you." If the D's all started voting for a very liberal republican, 1) it would be hilarious to watch the crazies on the far right freak out and call for unity, and 2) it would create an actual coalition government of sorts.
I mean, sure, but name one. You don't get elected as a GOP politico if you aren't deepthroating right wing cock. FFS, that one rep is getting death threats because she voted against Gymmy boy. That's not an electoral base conducive to coalition building.
Politics shouldn't be about owning the other side. The Dems should not vote outside their party unless they have a deal to do so.
However, yes, the Dems could help to vote in a moderate speaker. They should negotiate concessions to do so. Doing so freely would be bad politics. It would give the far right fodder to rile up their base. It gives the moderate Republicans no reason to fight back against the far right and gives the Dems no win a part from the Republicans enacting their policies, which often is against the Dems policies.
Purposely inflaming the far right only emboldens them. This is one time the high ground actually works to penalose the far right and make them less effective.
this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
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