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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/40905844

With some prominent Democrats and liberal pundits arguing for the party to try to win Elon Musk back to its side, you have to ask: Is American politics simply a matter of who can best kiss the ass of narcissistic reactionary billionaires?

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[–] RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Is American politics simply a matter of who can best kiss the ass of narcissistic reactionary billionaires?

Always has been.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

We should make sure his life is a living hell at any post he moves to. Make sure anything he touches fails just like Tesla and make sure he can't have any more kids.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I misread the headline and thought it was a cautionary statement, explaining that elon musk was going around "woo-ing" at people, and you should (under no circumstances) "woo" back.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 15 hours ago

"do not stare at the musk. It's will perceive it as a threatening gesture and fling poo at you"

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Keep him away from Ric Flair.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

Sounds like something someone stoned out their tree WOOuld do though

[–] trashboat@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Made me think of Woo Back Wednesday

Wooooo

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He could be a useful tool too disassemble the corrupted administration. We just lack a sufficient craftsman to wield him, and sufficient balls to dispose of him afterwards.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I hope he actually does create another party and split the Republicans, ensuring that none of them win another election ever again.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 15 hours ago

Be careful, Hillary tried to create an easy opponent too. If we've learned anything from 2024, it's that desperate people will vote for any change. Even if that change is bad.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago

The whole bifurcated party thing cuts both ways though. The vast majority of the even slightly progressive people are sick and tired of the Democrats handholding with the Republicans only narrowly being the least appetizing item on the menu. There's nobody standing for the people. Everybody's standing for the oligarchs. I'm not saying I would vote Republican ever, But we've got to be able to do something relatively better than whatever this is we're doing now.

The Republicans would split on fiscal versus "morals". Immorally progressive fiscally conservative party to rapillase the publicans might draw a number of the wealthy Democrats with it.

There are other countries out there that do a better job. And it's quite clear now that our Constitution does not have the teeth It was designed to have.

[–] Rancor_Tangerine@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Seriously. Dems need to get over the endless purity tests. Where that old meme with the communist kangaroo anyway?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

useful tool

Why? Based on what, exactly?

The guy is an absolute drug addicted idiot with no skills or empathy anywhere. He got lucky multiple times leading him to where he is today, but he's always been a lying sack of shit who only is a multi billionaire because of luck and a loooooot of lying.

What, exactly, would make that a useful tool for anything?

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

💰 💰 💰

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip -1 points 20 hours ago

You think i'm going to hold a conversation with you flying off the hinges already? good day sir.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He’s a fucking Nazi. If you try to woo him, you are too. This isn’t rocket science dem dipshits, you’re supposed to be something beyond a fundraising org.

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Interesting that you would bring up rocket science.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago

But like... What if you team up with the Nazis, and just compromise with them? I bet that goes over really well historically

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

With him leaving the way he did literally nobody in the country likes this man and aiding with him in any way is political suicide.

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're saying the Dems are 100% going to try to win him over

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They might try to run him for office

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Musk-Clinton 2028: Bad Decisions Boogaloo

DNC:

write that down WRITE THAT DOWN

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Don't threaten Dem leadership with a good time. They're liable to put him at the top of the ticket in 28.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s so embarrassing to watch democrats constantly groveling for money.

It’s telling that the leaked audio of the DNC vice president fracas had the establishment guy (Mike Miquetoast or something) whine to David Hogg that he wanted to get back to the real business of fundraising.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The real hard work done in government. The real actual change in the world. The real benefit to the country at large.

FUNDRAISING

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems Dems just love losing elections.

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This illustrates the issue of having only 2 political parties. You used to have left and right. Then the right extended all the way to batshit crazy nazi while losing touch with the centre-right, and it collapsed to keep only t̂he nazis. Meanwhile the "left" extended to centre then all the way to the economic right.

Now you have a nazi party and an everything else party, and people ask the last to "get their shit together", as if socialists would sort out their differences with neo-liberals and conservatives over a quick diner and build a common ground plan.

That just can't work.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It also accentuates the need for ranked choice voting or something similar. You need to give a people a way to say what they want to say with nuance and power. If everyone says they wish they could vote for someone else but need to vote strategically then parties never need to be good and can just thump on about defeating the evil party.

Yes, I’m from Canada and vote NDP, how did you know?

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

But so you know well that a party committing to change the voting system will have a change of heart after realizing the current system brought them to power. (I'm in Canada too ;) ).

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Of course, and how we force the issue I don’t know. I wish people would just stop strategically voting altogether because it only delays, and grows, the issue but that’s a lost cause. Not that I don’t continue to fight that fight but I know that winning people over toward voting in their best interests isn’t the way.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

I wish more people could see this.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

They should not try to win him back. They should deport his bitch ass to mars on one of his own rockets.

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