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Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.

Federal law states that the United States shall not “expel, extradite, or otherwise effect the involuntary return of any person to a country in which there are substantial grounds for believing the person would be in danger of being subjected to torture.” This law implements a treaty, known as the Convention Against Torture, which the United States ratified more than three decades ago.

Federal regulations, moreover, provide that even after an immigration judge has determined that a noncitizen may be deported to another country, that judge’s order “shall not be executed in circumstances that would violate Article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Torture.” And those regulations also establish a process that immigrants can use to raise concerns with an immigration judge that they may be tortured if sent to a specific country.

The Trump administration, however, claims it has discovered a loophole that renders all of these legal protections worthless, and is now asking the Supreme Court to explicitly give it the authority to make use of that loophole in order to enact its immigration policies.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.

Legal or not, why are you looking for excuses to torture people?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago

To torture people, of course.

State terrorism, plain and simple

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not letting torture stop the US from forcing them out.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Look buddy, we didn't drown any slaves, we just threw them overboard all chained together in the open sea, after that what happens to them isn't our problem"

Same energy.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you’re on the side of torture, you’re one of the bad guys

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can we not relitigate this. I remember this from like 18 years ago. It was not a good time.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

It wasn't taken care of then, which is why we're dealing with it now. After all, we have to mOvE oN aNd LoOk To ThE fUtUrE iNsTeAd Of DwElLiNg On ThE pAsT.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

See, this is why gwb and his cronies should have been prosecuted.

Instead, centrists were delighted when harris got dick cheney's endorsement, and were upset when gwb declined to endorse.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

yeah. The civil war is starting.

[–] Triflingmagoo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

Orange man is really leaning into this role of authoritarian dictator, isn’t he?

[–] you_are_it@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago

Wants excuse for super powers, try no to give him that

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 287 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Trump has a team of people who dedicated time, energy, and resources, to find a loophole around a ban on torture.

That sums up this administration's direction pretty succinctly.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I agree, but there’s a difference. Trump is a figurehead. It’s not his team. Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation are the “deep state” that the right voters were convinced were controlling them through the dems. Peter Thiel, Putin, the Koch, Scaife, Uihlein, Bradley families and/or foundations, Barre Seid, Leonard Leo, Coors, Walmart, Exxon mobile, etc etc they’re all financing and guiding the hydra.

Trump goes away and Peter Thiel wormtongues Vance into doing the same shit

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think it's ignorant to underscore the importance of Trump. He's made himself as irreplaceable to their plans as possible. He relies on them to work like all kings do, but without him they'll have a much harder time keeping the coalition from cannibalizing itself.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

We can only hope that the Big Macs and lack of exercise kill him quickly.

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[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 114 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Obama pardoning the Bush admin for torture was seen as weak and pathetic at the time, and its worse now.

He should have thrown the book at Bush and co.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It would have been good if the Obama administration had at least walked back the massive erosion of freedom, civil liberty, and the breaches of international law that happened under Bush.

But it didn't. No one has. Administrations from both parties seem to have kept it as a new status quo.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Obama should have done a lot of things. I'm happy he did Obamacare but man he could have been so much more. Such a wasted chance. And making Biden his VP was a catastrophic error. Biden sabotaged the shit out of everything he touched.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 89 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Orange hitler needs to be impeached, removed from office, and sent to prison for his previous and current crimes.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Who's gonna do it? Democrats? Ha.

They're too busy fucking over David Hogg to care.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was hoping this would happen after his first term. However it will never, ever, EVER, happen. There just isn't anyone with a spine who will do anything about him.

Now I'm hoping he gets a debilitating stroke/heart attack.
Or a long painful death. Colon cancer is fine, anything that can't be treated.
Last resort is assassination, not because I'm above such things or find it distasteful etc. I was, but not anymore. No, it's because if that happens then it'll probably be quick and painless. And that racist rapist kiddie fiddler doesn't fucking deserve that mercy.

Assassination would stop him from hurting people quicker than cancer. Even if he had a stroke that debilitated him he wouldn't get impeached, he'd just effectively be a more obedient puppet.

Not to mention, assassination sends a message to his peers too. As much as I want him to suffer, I think a quick assassination would be more effective.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is there no evil idea these guys don't love?

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 54 points 1 week ago

If you face torture or deathcamps, It's better to go out shooting.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago
[–] CM400@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

According to President Donald Trump’s lawyers, the administration can simply wait until after an immigration judge has conducted the proceeding that ordinarily would determine whether a particular noncitizen may be deported to a particular country, and then, if that noncitizen is allowed to be deported, announce that the immigrant will be deported to some previously unmentioned country — even if that immigrant reasonably fears they will be tortured in that nation.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (8 children)

We should have Trump dragged through the streets by a Tesla.

Wouldn't you rather use something more reliable? What if it rains?

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 24 points 1 week ago

Just what we need to put in the hands of this Orange piece of human shit.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 week ago

Pretty tough talk from the orange dude that vociferously whines about reporters asking "nasty" questions.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

extraordinary rendition meets enhanced interrogation, I guess.

Sean Hannity still hasn't been waterboarded for charity.

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[–] Dillenger69@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd be happy if he got his wish and then magically disappeared and we heard rumors of him being waterboarded for fun. I'd do it myself.

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[–] narr1@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

Geneva Suggestions

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