Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.
Legal or not, why are you looking for excuses to torture people?
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Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.
Legal or not, why are you looking for excuses to torture people?
If you’re on the side of torture, you’re one of the bad guys
Can we not relitigate this. I remember this from like 18 years ago. It was not a good time.
It wasn't taken care of then, which is why we're dealing with it now. After all, we have to mOvE oN aNd LoOk To ThE fUtUrE iNsTeAd Of DwElLiNg On ThE pAsT.
If you face torture or deathcamps, It's better to go out shooting.
We should have Trump dragged through the streets by a Tesla.
I was thinking feeding him McDonald hamburgers, Matilda style.
Wouldn't you rather use something more reliable? What if it rains?
According to President Donald Trump’s lawyers, the administration can simply wait until after an immigration judge has conducted the proceeding that ordinarily would determine whether a particular noncitizen may be deported to a particular country, and then, if that noncitizen is allowed to be deported, announce that the immigrant will be deported to some previously unmentioned country — even if that immigrant reasonably fears they will be tortured in that nation.
Shit. That is going to work. The SCOTUS will want to suck Trumps balls a little after telling him "no" 5-6 times ... to make it up to him. I bet they are going to pass this.
Pretty tough talk from the orange dude that vociferously whines about reporters asking "nasty" questions.
See, this is why gwb and his cronies should have been prosecuted.
Instead, centrists were delighted when harris got dick cheney's endorsement, and were upset when gwb declined to endorse.
Haven't they already been doing this in Guantanamo?
Yes. A lot of the Trump stuff is building on existing violations of international law that started with Bush II and were continued by each subsequent administration.
They are being forced to bring prisoners/ witnesses back to the US. They need to have their ducks in a row.
We’re so fucked.
yeah. The civil war is starting.
Orange man is really leaning into this role of authoritarian dictator, isn’t he?
The fact that the riots have only just started, and for something that has been going on for months, says a lot about the citizens of the US. I have no faith in any of you.
Reiteration that the US system is set up to quell citizen action by design. Also, relatively, what has happened in LA so far pales in comparison to riots in the past, it is mostly just protests with occasional flare-ups by agents provocateur or the random crazy. Media then takes the sound/video bites of that handful of events, and make it look like the whole thing is like that.
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It isn't like what was seen in Germany or South Korea a while back where the country is small, travel is easy, and everyone can go protest without fear of losing their job/health/life just by acting upon their legal right to protest. If you've never driven on the ground across the USA, you have absolutely no scale of scope on how massive it is.
However the US ends up playing out, it will be vastly different from first-world nations. Speculating that things will have to get much worse before people have to start risking their lives to then risk their lives just to protest. By then, it might very well be fight time.
First-world nations should probably (and they are) just prep for the US not being available, or an ally, and probably leaning in on the US being an antagonist for the foreseeable future. This cancer is going to continue to be a rough ride for the entire planet. Don't blame the US citizens though. Citizens are a pawn in this oligarchy. Even the ones that were deceived into voting for a senile potted plant. That delusion they teach kids that, "even you can be President some day!" are just words to make people think they have control in the current system, so they don't try to find out they actually don't.
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Just to add to your point of the size of the US, I recently traveled from San Bernardino California to Salmon Idaho in my 2001 Toyota Tacoma. Even avoiding high traffic areas like Utah it was still rough, that's with it being a more or less straight line through Nevada, only 20 fucking hours.
Honestly I suspect that this will be both a boon and a curse for resistance as time goes on, since it does heavily restrict how fast you can physically move people around. This means any response time by the feds is going to be decently lagged out.
I am also annoyed that those exact thoughts about boon/curse had to enter my brain, but storing it in long-term planning just the same.
As an American, I have no faith in any of us either.
As long as the fascist fuck gets to test it out first...
Wants excuse for super powers, try no to give him that