this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2025
234 points (94.3% liked)

News

37304 readers
2348 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.


Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, blogs, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.


7. No duplicate posts.


If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.


All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 36 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago (2 children)

USA has gone completely insane.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Build the wall" seems ever more reasonable.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe Mexico will actually eventually pay for the wall... to keep Americans out

[–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Oh, my, god, they were right about the 4D chess all along.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

American here, yes we have... send help

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If these states were really worried about chemtrails, they’d invest in high speed rail.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They think Chemtrails are different from normal contrails, like there's a secret switch in the cockpit of certain airliners that dumps mind control drugs into the air. They don't actually have any interest in reducing emissions, they're just mad about the liberal mind virus spray.

[–] alanjaow@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

They don't like it when people care for each other.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Worried about chemtrails, don't believe in global warming. Worried about fluoride, aren't concerned about lead in the drinking water. Worried about vaccines causing autism, aren't worried about factories releasing PFAS into the environment. Worried about what they teach at Harvard, majority of voter base has no college degree. Worried about Bruce Springsteen, see nothing wrong with Kid Rock. Worried about immigrants, love Columbus Day.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The entire right wing political body in 2025 is made up exclusively of people you can put on an idiot -> evil scale.

Neoliberalism was the final idea to come from the culmination of right wing thought—and it fucked everything up.

Everything the right has done since the end of the 80s is desperate powerlust, because this is it for them, there's no rational reason to believe that right wing politics will benefit the average voter. So they do everything they can to pull anyone they can into an alternative reality where the point of their existence is still valid.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the world we live in today. Complete morons are running rampant.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

The concept of a "psy-op" orchestrated to destabilize a population was a conspiracy theory 10 years ago.

Today we're seeing the result of the most successful and widespread psy-op in human history.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

At least eight states, including Florida and Tennessee, have now introduced ... legislation to prohibit “geo-engineering” or “weather modification”

So, nothing to do with chemtrails and specifically addresses geo-engineering and weather modification. Cloud seeding is a thing and dispersing particulates to reflect sunlight has also been much discussed. These states simply don't want it happening in their state.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Heheh. Yeah. Except they don’t think it’s cloud seeding. They just don’t have another way to say “it’s illegal to spray the woke mind virus”

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 10 months ago

They should also ban the Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot and the other kind of aliens.

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

DO IT! I want to see them explain why the number of contrails hasn't decreased.

[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 4 points 10 months ago

That’s what I was thinking. They’re basically gonna end up banning airplanes from flying at certain altitudes.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Per another comment (and the article I suppose, if I bothered to read it), the title is apparently misleading and the bills are about 'weather modification' and such, not about chemtrails.

But a bill to ban chemtrails: my take is, I'd support that. You have a bunch of people worried they're real. If chemtrails were real, they'd be bad. People can't trust companies not to be doing it secretly, but those people trust legislation (a bit; maybe). Okay then, legislate it. Give people peace of mind.

It's like all the debates about phones listening in to you. The consensus seems quite clear that they're not, and all the uncanny ad targeting comes from connecting the dots on other data. But, maybe it could be real? Okay, legislate it. Make it highly illegal for devices to listen in without clear consent and notification. Okay, that's far more complicated than it sounds, but it would be one step of pressure in the right direction to make it not happen.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I think the article was tailor written as ragebait/smugbait:

I looked up Louisiana's SB46.

It's literally just talking about cloud seeding and geo-engineering. It doesn't say anything about chemtrails. Cloud seeding and geo-engineering are, per the article on top of this thread, real things.

Edit:

Looked up Florida's SB56.

It's about weather modification and geo-engineering.

Edit edit:

Tennessee HB2063. It's about cloud seeding.

This is getting dumb. The bills are about real things and nothing in the text- which is what becomes the actual law has anything to do with chemtrails.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

No it's not.

To the average Trump voter who knows fuck all about anything geoengineering and cloud seeding are just another word for chemtrails. Its just like DEI. It don't understand it so I don't like it.

Right wing politicians are just using chemtrails as an excuse to walk back any green technology that their oil daddy lobbiest aren't happy about.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

That's the wording of the law, but it was presented as an anti chemtrail law in this state, at least.

There are people here that seriously believe that cloud seeding, geoengineering, and weather modification is done through airliner "chemtrails" and that recent powerful hurricanes were actually the result of this liberal airliner weather weaponization.

The law is the state's response to its concerned constituency.

I can't even make this shit up.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"There are no chemtrails."

"See? The laws worked! Vote for _____"

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Okay, so didn't the government release an airborne poison over St Louis I think it was? I mean, the chemtrail conspiracy is way overblown and plenty crazy...

But, is it really true to say they are entirely a fiction?

I guess I'm gonna have to try to hunt down where I heard the claim about government testing a chemical weapon on civilians. But considering the horrific shit they've done that's confirmed (Ludlow massacre, bombing a civilian neighborhood in Tulsa, Kent State... It's an ugly, and not at all short, list), it's plausible to say the least.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nobody is arguing that the government is too moral to do such a thing. They're saying that contrails are a well understood phenomena and would be a lousy way to distribute chemical weapons.

If your a history buff, check out footage of 'agent orange'. Did they spray that from B52s at the roof of the troposphere? No, cargo planes flying low. (and slow)

Discharge from fossil fuel processing and power generation is known to cause health problems in humans and that junk is dispersed a few hundred meters into the air to keep ground levels below pollution thresholds.

Chemtrails is a stupid idea that could only satisfy the least curious mind.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 10 months ago

solving the first problem is probably easier than explaining the complex physics to everyone with the current education system. A more inclusive government would also improve the education system and lead to better understanding, too.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Oh, I pretty much agree with everything you said. Just seemed ironic is all.

In any case, too much stupid in the news. And everything else is just propaganda. 🤮

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

There are planes that specially spray something, so "entirely a fiction" depends on where you actually draw the line. But all the standard bullshit is make up nonsense.

[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I didn’t see the states listed. Just mentions Louisiana, Tennessee, and Florida. I’m assuming it’s the usual suspects (southern states and a few midwestern ones).

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

Since the only way to stop the cloud trails are not to fly they should just shut down air traffic in those states. Refuse flyovers. Let's go race to the bottom

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago

Judge: ok, we got rid of them

public: but, I still see them.

Judge: no you don't

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Were they all red states?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I hope they do something about endangering the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago

There are countries that attempt weather moderation using airplanes. They are likely trying to ban such practices from arriving.