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[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. "- Admiral Adama

[–] unreliable@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are in USA, is a good time to downloading an "Black bloc manual" in some offline storage

[–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Oh no worries. Trump is such a fan of insurrections he hands out pardons by the thousands for them - every single pardon personally signed by him, and totally not by autopen, I'm sure.

Seriously, though. Can't wait for him to cry victim and pull a surprised pikachu when all this pushback to his antagonization makes it to the steps of the White House. Hope he keeps the surprised face until the bitter end, and that end can't come soon enough.

[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 155 points 2 days ago (31 children)

I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about "America has always been a shit show, and Trump is the parody version"?

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

trump isn't the parody version.... he is the logical, and inevitable end point. he is the perfect avatar and representation of what america is, what it stands for, and what it has ALWAYS stood for! trump is the perfect president because he so perfectly encapsulates every single american value: he is lazy, fat, stupid, corrupt, proudly ignorant and scared of anything he doesnt understand.

how do you look at 250 years of american history and not see that he represents exactly what made america 'great'? genocide, slavery, segregation and jim crow laws...

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I'm not actually surprised that the second american civil war starts in California. Cali always seemed like the most progressive state.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Progressive as in Pride-themed anti-homeless boulder

Reminds me of Victoria BC in Canada, whole place feels like a liberal nightmare. The place is run and populated by champagne liberals who step over homeless addicts on their way to their micro breweries so they can congratulate each other on how progressive they are.

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[–] shaquilleoatmeal@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’m afraid he’ll declare martial law. What happens if he does?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

We all know what it takes to remove fascists from power

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There would probably be no consequences for him, but the "martial law" would probably be ignored and not happen.

As I understand it, in the US, martial law can only legally happen if the courts are unable to function. Basically, if things are so bad courts are unable to judge people, you let the military judge them.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The law hasn't mattered so far. It is illegal for him to deploy the National Guard without the governor's consent, which was not given. Not only was it now given, but Trump went out of his way to denounce the governor while illegally deploying the National Guard.

The US is no longer operating within the constitution, it is operating under the appearance of one, an appearance that falls apart the closer you look at it.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What you say and what I say don't contradict. ICE is already acting as if martial law was declared, ignoring due process/habeas corpus. If Trump declared martial law, those that still follow laws, constitution and the courts would keep doing so and those that follow Trumps orders above all would also keep doing so. There would be no substantial change.

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[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago

Zero consequences, as usual.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 143 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Funny how he doesn't hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn't do shit.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

It's not a fucking immigration protest. They didn't deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it’s no longer an “immigration protest”. It’s a NAZI protest.

[–] HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Does anyone know how to find out where the protests will take place this week?

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Repeat after me: A government that is bluntly sending weapon to bomb kids have no concern of it is own citizen.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.

[–] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

If you don't own a gun, its time to get one, regardless of your stance on them. This is martial law without having to call it that.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.

Sooo, there’s that.

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[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 291 points 3 days ago (11 children)

“The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”

Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.

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[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Rather than addressing the issue. Yet again.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 215 points 3 days ago (14 children)

It has begun. Trump unleashing the army against the population fighting against his gestapo.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 132 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 110 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that's not going to solve this. It's just going to start a true resistance.

There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that's when they kill them.

All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn't want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

[–] tankfox@midwest.social 1 points 23 hours ago

The goal is to engineer a 'state of emergency' so future elections may be canceled. That's it. The guard could have all stayed home and the process will simply continue as if they'd come out because each step is purely performative to get to the goal.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There is a good reason not to follow unconstitutional orders.

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[–] damdy@lemm.ee 61 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight... except it's not even a knife fight it's a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump's only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago (9 children)

This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we'll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi's trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.

By next summer it will get really ugly, and he'll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.

Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.

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