normies think politics = elections. like they actually do not perceive economics and politics as being related
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Why wouldn't they? They have literally been told since birth that politics and economics are two completely separate things, and that the reason communism failed is because it attempted to connect them.
It is only the sons and daughters of the bourgeois and politicians that usually have an understanding of the connections these things have, and more over, that they need to maintain control of them.
It's so bizarre how people fail to understand that economics and politics are inseparable. Economics determines how labor and resources are allocated; politics determines who benefits from that allocation. One answers 'how,' the other 'why.'
That's basically everyone who isn't some type of socialist. Even terminally online fascists and libertarians think economics and politics are seperate things. I think I've met maybe one lib in my entire life who knew the two are the same thing, but that's because he was a professor of political science.
It’s worse when they get into politics and just seem obsessed with taxes, treats and thinking boycotts or collecting dvds from goodwill are praxis.
Or becoming very weird about immigration or welfare
And any opposition to mass migration is really just ensuring migrants have as few rights as possible while still working. These people don’t want to grow food or work in factories. An equal world with limited need for mass migration would be their worst nightmare. They are would be TikTok celebrities looking to run some joke into the ground or engage the most pathetic styles of activism.
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"I'm not really into politics. Anyway, let me tell you how much I hate my job, my boss, my landlord, my shitty health insurance, my student loans, my town's public transportation and the fact that I come home too tired to do anything after work every day."
More like not into the politics of the big bourgeois dictatorship, if only more knew
sign me up for the party trying to solve these issues....wait
Regarding childcare being provided: I don't see why parents who wish to be their children's care providers can't be trained and paid by the state. Granted, there are parents who want time away from home responsibilities to take on other responsibilities, and that's fine, too. Perhaps one parent would choose to care for some neighborhood children in addition to their own. I also feel housespouses should be compensated for endless hours of unpaid labor. This would give economic freedom to leave unhealthy or abusive relationships, while also acknowledging that sometimes people who start out being compatible as partners can grow in different directions, and while it may not be an abusive relationship, can certainly end up being unhappy which can lead to unhealthy. I mean, I understand that everything can't all happen at once, but this just seems like it can and should be implemented from the go. If the state can pay nannies and other domestic help, there's no reason why it can't pay a housespouse/stay at home parent. But proper education and training should be requisite, because these skills are absolutely transferrable to the same outside professions and to other professions with not a lot of additional training.
doesnt look realistic 😐
sounds like you're a fan of self fulfilling prophecies
I'd prefer effective pollicies.
Such as?
That's the question!
The important thing is that you've managed to feel smug without doing anything. Congrats!
at least i dont go on the internet to tell strangers how they feel
PSL and groups like them do a lot of good work at more local levels. Feel like that's worth pointing out
Like what? I'd be curious to know more.
Well, for instance, I live in a major city. Our branch of PSL runs food distribution events, has organized a ton of pro palestine protests, have pushed to elect socialist local aldermans, and more.
Pick a big city and find their PSL branch social media. You'll see what they're up to.
glad to hear they help people
Last I checked Marxism has been proven to be effective time and again, but you do you.
hey I'm just curious but do you know which leader presided over the greatest increase in life expectancy in recorded history?
I doubt there's reliable data, but my guess would be sargon of akkad
Mao Zedong
how do you figure that's a greater increase than going from ape life to mesopotamia?
Your understanding of history may actually be more pathetic than your understanding of political theory.
at least i dont attack strangers on the internet
Weaponizing your general unwillingness to learn is attacking in it’s own way
absolutely abysmal reading comprehension. good luck with your ape life
do you think I said recorded history so you could handwave with this kind of dumb caveat
this answers my question about you being in high school
not sure why you're being so hostile
It's such a shame that a better world is completely impossible. Oh well, on to the apocalypse I guess.
The world around you is not limited by your ability to understand it. I don't understand surgery. From my perspective, cutting someone open and moving stuff around "doesn't look realistic". Yet surgeries happen. I'm not a surgeon, so I don't go around telling surgeons what is possible.
Is there a global socialist takeover I missed?
Absurd question. Do you think that the purpose of a socialist party is to form after a "global socialist takeover"?
The post said "sign me up for the party trying to solve these issues". PSL is trying to solve these issues. PSL is trying to make more people into socialists.
Why global? Ah, because the west will be the last to socialism. Not yet global, but certainly inevitable.
Why not?
50% of most countries are voting extremely conservative, and a big seperate chunk vote moderate. The appetite isn't there among voters right now for liberalism ; let alone socialism.
Moderates and conservatives are both overwhelmingly liberals... Extremely unserious political understanding.
That's because liberalism isn't a halfway point between socialism and conservatism it is, to misquote Stalin, fascism with a happy face sticker on it.
Most "western" countries' governments have spent the last ~100 years waging outright war on socialism through coups, assassinations, imprisonments, and propaganda.
Political (and historical) education has been hacked away so much that most people couldn't give a coherent definition of "socialism" anyway - and socialist policies poll extremely well if you short-circuit the propaganda by not mentioning the forbidden s-word.
The purpose of a party like PSL is to build a mass movement able to build socialism. It's far beyond just voting every few years. Democracy happens when the masses are in motion, and that's what PSL aims to achieve.
skill issue
Sounds like a lack of imagination or a lack of willingness to try on your part.
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