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[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 62 points 9 months ago

They were still Europeans when they did the naming

[-] yata@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not necessarily. The majority of current US was colonised long after it became an independent state.

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'd argue the majority of English-based naming though are in the original 13 colonies and were named prior to 1776. Having lived on both coasts, it sure seems that is the case.

A lot of the other places are likely due to later immigrants building their own communities west of those colonies, and then there are a lot of coincidences as well.

And then there's a ton of cities named after Bible references.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I’ve lived in the Midwest, and after moving to New England, this it very much the case. Most of the 4-5 states that make up New England are full of towns with the same names from old England used over and over.

But in the plus side we don’t sound like idiots when we visit and know how to pronounce Gloucester and Worcester.

French Canadians in New England did the opposite though, and seem to aggressively mispronounce their French locations (Calais, Barre, Montpelier).

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[-] GrassrootBoundaries@slrpnk.net 49 points 9 months ago

New Zealand did it with a whole ass country

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago
[-] IanAtCambio@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago
[-] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

And a tiny village in the east of the Netherlands nowhere near the sea, funnily enough

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

How can anything in Netherlands not be near the sea?

[-] wieson@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But it's always

🎶 Under the sea Under the sea 🎶

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I think living in a tiny country must really mess with your sense of scale

[-] dreadedsemi@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

US did it with a whole country named after a continent. What's your country? those states who decided to unite. Which ones? The ones of America. Ah those ones.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

It's not 'United States of North America', it's just United States of America. America is actually two continents.

Not like that makes it any better LOL, just saying..

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

We're also not the only union of states in the Americas either. Mexico and Brazil both have states, too.

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[-] comador@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Australia to a lesser extent too.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago

York isn't a city in England. It's a city in Pennsylvania.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

It's originally a city in North Yorkshire, so the English aren't all that original with their city names either.

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[-] janus2@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago

York is a mistake in Pennsylvania

(jk. I love my hometown. Sorta.)

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[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 19 points 9 months ago

Sometimes they don’t even put new in front of it. Illinois has a Milan, but they pronounce it My-lan. Smh

[-] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bagdad, Arizona

No I did not misspell that.

[-] Auk@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

There's a Bagdad in Tasmania too, went past it when I was down there a while back (as well as Jericho and the Nile River).

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Supposedly that city is named after a dad who ran a mining operation loading stuff out in bags. Ridiculous.

There's also a Bagdad in Florida.

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[-] Chr0nos1@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

New York has a Chili, but they pronounce it like Chai lie.

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

There are 29 cities in the US named Lebanon

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Like so many cities in the US, the name is used a lot because of biblical references to it. American Christians are not a very creative bunch.

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[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

The city of York used to be called Amsterdam before, right?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam

Why they changed it I can't say

People just liked it better that way

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

So, take me back to Constantinople.

[-] domin8r@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The Dutch "lost" New York to the English. They surrendered when a large force of Englishmen demanded the surrender of the city. It had been awarded to the Duke of York. Hence the name.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

I think so. Why they changed it? I can't say, seems they just liked it better that way.

[-] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

~better~ ~that~ ~way~

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Joke can be equally made with Native American names, especially Michigan which is named from Algonquin word "Mishigamaw," meaning “big lake” or “great water,” deriving its name from the lake of the same name.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Native American words for landmarks are so cool, much better than the colonial equivalents.

Mt. McKinley - Denali

Mt. Adams - Klikitat

Mt. Jefferson - Seekseekqua

Mt. Rainier - Tacoma

Mt. Shasta - Ako-yet

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Seekseekqua

Nemesis of Hidehidequa

[-] PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

This too should be a proper post on this community!

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[-] Klystron@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

A lot of the Seattle area has retained its original indigenous names... Seattle itself was the name of the local chief, Tukwila, Sammamish, Issaquah, Tacoma, Puyallup, Snoqualmie.

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[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 9 months ago

I live in New England, USA. I was talking with a Brit about the British show The Archers. The Brit asked me whether I could tell which places were made up for the show and which were real. I told him that if I new a place in New England named something, it was probably a real place in the UK.

[-] GildorInglorion@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Pennsylvania has a York and a Lancaster. And their very own War of the Roses.PA War of the Roses

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[-] thelemonalex@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

We have a Miami in Spain!

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The third one in this series is my favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13RhSc-DaOI

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

York isn't just a city in England, it's also a city in Pennsylvania.

Also, the existence of New Caledonia and New Britain tells me it's not just Americans doing this.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I believe there's also a New London, pop 15 plus someone's dog, which shows a distinct lack of imagination.

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[-] Airazz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

There are like twelve Londons in the US. Looks like we exported only the best and the most creative.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

There's a London in Ontario too

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, they weren't always Americans at the time, but it's still funny :)

Besides, it was the new world (in that it was new to Europeans)

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

We even do it to ourselves

Indigenous PNWers call white folks bostoners because of how many of them originally came from Mass and named their new settlements after towns in Mass

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