people under 18 will just jerk off to the girls instead of spending money on the game
this post was submitted on 07 May 2025
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This appears to be a direct consequence of a recent settlement with the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which had charged HoYoverse with deceiving minors into spending for their loot boxes. The Chinese developer was subsequently banned from selling them to users under 16 without a parent's express consent, paid a $20 million fine to the FTC, and was also subject to the following stipulations:
- Prohibited from selling loot boxes using virtual currency without providing an option for consumers to purchase them directly with real money;
- Prohibited from misrepresenting loot box odds, prices and features;
- Required to disclose loot box odds and exchange rates for multi-tiered virtual currency;
- Required to delete any personal information previously collected from children under 13 unless they obtain parental consent to retain such data; and
- Required to comply with COPPA, including its notice and consent requirements.
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com @JoMiran@lemmy.ml
I don't understand. For spending money one requires banking/card information. How children will get their guardian's banking details without their consent?
Have you paid for things on mobile in-app? The operating system stores your info behind a password (or biometric) because adults (non-gambling as well) also hate having to memorize 16 digits flawlessly every time they needed to make payments.
Why would parents' payment info be stored in child's device or user account?
Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.
Then why tf a game is responsible for their monetory loss? Children are susceptible to many more scams. And on top of that taking such privacy invasive 'measure' to solve it doesn't make sense either. Children can even upload patent's ids if parents are so careless anyway.
Ignorance is not an excuse for bad parenting.
Damn, got 'em. Actually, they deserve to lose $16,000 while raising a gambling addict because they didn't pull up their bootstraps and micromanage everything their preteen does in "that colorful game they play."
Mate, asking under-13s to get parent permission is provoking that good parenting you seem to care about anyway—what on earth is the problem?
Parental controls (or just not inputting card details into a phone the child has access to) is a fairly effective way to prevent the child spending the parent's money without then knowing. Micromanagement is not typically considered good parenting; however showing interest in, and having some knowledge of, what your child spends significant time doing is.
Do you have children and have you had to use parental controls for some games? The controls largely suck so much and just end up being a source of endless frustration. They are not what I would call effective.
Preventing purchases should (as far as I am aware, is) be an app store level setting on mobile devices. Parental controls should be better than they currently are, but ID requirements (or other PII) are not the solution.
Okay. So is requiring under-13s to ask their parents. I don't see what the issue is.
the issue is forcing everyone for giving up sensitive personal information.
Okay. So argue about that then. What does bad parenting have to do with it?
Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.
This comment is a parenting related issue, the technicality illiterate might forget to take the proper precautions when letting their child use their phone and blame the game instead of taking responsibility for their actions.
No, you're making it one to sidestep an issue.
If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that "no one has any common sense anymore," or whatever you're doing, isn't a solution.
I do blame the game a little because it's a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks.
Let me ask you this question, hm? You don't want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine. Why not: $80 up front, all banners are periodic DLCs, some of them free, there is more than enough korok seeds in game to get all of them, and they never expire—infinite time to twiddle your thumbs before completing them. Would this not solve your ID problem?
That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones?
I've refused to move my payment from password to biometrics purely because I'll spend more if I don't have to type out my 22 character password. A few times I've gone to buy something and seen the password field pop up and just like.. uhh cbf.
And then saved like $30.
I usually put limit on accounts or cards saved on device for everyday usage. I did the same for others in family too. Thanks to this my aunt lost only $25 when she got tech support scammed.
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The why is rarely argued. The how is always the point of contention. That's why I am wondering what they are asking for age verification.
Sure would be convenient if the US came up with some way to electronically verify IDs...
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But the adults, they weren't deceived in any way. Hoyo scammed them fair and square.
Ban the entire business model.
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Force government ID and I'm out. Max I'm giving you is DOB.
... And I don't even play anymore
DOB, yes.....Fake, but yes.
9/11/1900
I'm old enough for any DOB check, yet I still lie.
Quick scroll down and a click on wherever i land, mhmm.
TDLR: "If you don't give us PII information within a made up deadline, we will deny you access to any content you paid in the past."
A settlement with the FTC is not some "made up deadline" Hoyo can change.
TBF the FTC is currently the least legitimate it has ever been as an organization
The settlement—negotiations finished January 17, 2025—was before Trump's inauguration and the illegal firings.
Blame the US for declaring that US minors are too stupid and US parents too neglectful to pay attention to what is purchased online.
They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.
They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.
Good. Gambling is illegal for minors under the age of 18.
Most of the game isn't gambling, to pretend otherwise is just silly. It's like being one of those idiots that pretend counterstrike is gambling.
If there's an otherwise g rated movie with ten minutes of full frontal nudity and hard-core sex what rating do you think that movie is gonna get?
In statesia? Who made it?
If you think cosmetic lootboxes are comparable to porn, you're too stupid for internet access and your handler should limit your screen time in the future until a cure is found for whatever thing is currently affecting you.
It's comparable to gambling—you should keep up with the thread.
What are they requesting for age verification?
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