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[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Parental controls (or just not inputting card details into a phone the child has access to) is a fairly effective way to prevent the child spending the parent's money without then knowing. Micromanagement is not typically considered good parenting; however showing interest in, and having some knowledge of, what your child spends significant time doing is.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have children and have you had to use parental controls for some games? The controls largely suck so much and just end up being a source of endless frustration. They are not what I would call effective.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 15 hours ago

Preventing purchases should (as far as I am aware, is) be an app store level setting on mobile devices. Parental controls should be better than they currently are, but ID requirements (or other PII) are not the solution.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Okay. So is requiring under-13s to ask their parents. I don't see what the issue is.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

the issue is forcing everyone for giving up sensitive personal information.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Okay. So argue about that then. What does bad parenting have to do with it?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

this law is the result of bad parenting. if parents would parent, nothing like this would be needed

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 44 minutes ago

Wow. The world sucks then, doesn't it?

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.

This comment is a parenting related issue, the technicality illiterate might forget to take the proper precautions when letting their child use their phone and blame the game instead of taking responsibility for their actions.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No, you're making it one to sidestep an issue.

If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that "no one has any common sense anymore," or whatever you're doing, isn't a solution.

I do blame the game a little because it's a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks.

Let me ask you this question, hm? You don't want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine. Why not: $80 up front, all banners are periodic DLCs, some of them free, there is more than enough korok seeds in game to get all of them, and they never expire—infinite time to twiddle your thumbs before completing them. Would this not solve your ID problem?

That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that "no one has any common sense anymore," or whatever you're doing, isn't a solution.

of course thats not a solution. but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws that make the parents responsible for their negligence. sometimes it's not even intentional negligence, but that they don't even know what should they do, and how can that be done

I do blame the game a little because it's a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks.

that's fair, I do too. I also blame all the commercial social networks, if I can call them that way

You don't want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine.

just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved. normally you just show it and that's it.

That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones?

if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable for the consequences their negligence causes.