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Title is a little sensational but this is a cool project for non-technical folks who may need a mini-internet or data archive for a wide variety of reasons:

"PrepperDisk is a mini internet box that comes preloaded with offline backups of Wikipedia, street maps, survivalist information, 90,000 WikiHow guides, iFixit repair guides, government website backups (including FEMA guides and National Institutes of Health backups), TED Talks about farming and survivalism, 60,000 ebooks and various other content. It’s part external hard drive, part local hotspot antenna—the box runs on a Raspberry Pi that allows up to 20 devices to connect to it over wifi or wired connections, and can store and run additional content that users store on it. It doesn't store a lot of content (either 256GB or 512GB), but what makes it different from buying any external hard drive is that it comes preloaded with content for the apocalypse."

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[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago

I love this idea. I couldn't help but think of the innernette though.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 4 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago) (1 children)

Anybody know where to find an archive of this disk?

It's all publicly available info, or was. I've got a Raid 5 I can throw it on, might come in handy during power outs and such.

I've got spare hard drives, and an old Pi and other computers around. No need to spend $189 on this when you can pretty easily DIY. The value is the prepackaged archive.

I see projects like kwix and such, but I don't immediately see this archive or anything comparable. Haven't looked into this before.

BTW, if you're actually worried about the end of the world or whatever, this won't save you. Make friends with your neighbors and communities. If you don't have a physical trade, you need to learn one like fixing shit or growing really good weed.

*Edit suck - such

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 5 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

Kiwix.org

Download the App, and you can then download a full backup of Wikipedia, PHP Manuals, the "Survival Library", Ted Talks, FEMA guides, etc.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago

So I can easily get pretty much all of this through kwix directly? That will work. Throw it on my Raid. My media server is badly overworked but I should be able to use any old sbc as a frontend for the archive.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

Neat. I get the archived sites and docs as pretty useful and a good way to keep info that might be redacted or manipulated by a fascist government, but I gotta question the use of this technological medium to save information as useful during a “doomsday” situation.

If you’re in an actual doomsday situation, that means odds are utilities like water and power are intermittent or nonexistent, this box will be useless unless you have already spent the time and effort to install and maintain an off-grid power solution to use this device. Otherwise it’s useless.

So essentially a gimmick. However, I can’t argue with the preservation of knowledge in an effort to reference it when bad actors change what is publicly available.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

As someone who is generally on the more prepared side, the use case for most stuff falls far short of "doomsday". There is a ton to be said about things that are just generally useful in adverse situations. I've lived through a dozen or so storms that took out power for a few days (longest I think was 2 weeks). It's usually not a complete blackout everywhere.

Point being: I can see it being useful to have a bunch of info in something easily portable to say, double check breaker wiring helping your friend fix some stuff after the storm. Look up the emergency AM/CB/NOAA radio freqs. I have a lot of the resources on this thing on a server, but that's not mobile and would eat a lot of power just booting up. To package it nicely in a form factor like this would probably run me just about $189.

But the overall point is I think this falls on the extreme end of practical preparedness but I can absolutely see the use. Honestly the most practical thing on there are the books. Again, usually if a community gets hit bad you wind up with people that have power having a bunch of people stay over. Being able to allow multiple people stuff to read would help kill time.

All of that being said, its a distant second to the critical items that, again, have a huge range of uses: A solid first aide kit, 2 weeks of food (even if it's not awesome). I realize that's a luxury for a lot of people, but money is much better spent there first.

Strayed off topic a bit, but it's because while I don't think it makes a lot of sense to plan for SHTF scenarios, I do think we're going to see a general decay (but not elimination) of public services/utilities and an increasingly pissy climate. I think it's important for people to not fall into the bunker-prepper fantasy OR write off being more prepared than they're accustomed to.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

Solar generators exist, and are relatively inexpensive for smaller units.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

Note that I already said you’d have to have all the survival and power requirements in place before doomsday. Not waiting until doomsday to use this box as a tool to learn how to survive. IOW if you’re not already a prepped prepper, this box is pointless.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 33 seconds ago

I’m not a prepper and have both a gasoline and solar generator. Generators arent just for preppers, they are commonly owned in areas with regular power outages, for example.

And honestly, solar panels are so common these days you could rig something up with relative ease with a basic understanding of electricity.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Like most prepper things for sale, this is a better product to skin money from the ignorant and the unreasonably fearful than it is truly useful. It assumes you have electricity and the functioning equipment to access it.

In a real prepper situation, you either already ready have the knowledge in your head, (the best method), or you have real books and pamphlets to read, (slow to access).

Remember Kiddies, if a real SHTF gets here, there not only won't be no google or youtube, but there won't be much time to use it anyway. Survival is a real time sink. And most living in the big cities will simply die in place anyway.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I've seen people make power generators using old washing machine motors. Youtube is full of them. Cutting PVC pipes to make wind ones and even water based ones off of rivers.

I feel like some people would figure out basic electrical grids for led lights in homes at night and possibly a battery bank made of car batteries or something.

Getting a laptop working in that environment wouldn't be too far of a stretch. Just need to find an old brother laser printer and a Linux USB and you're golden.

Print off the critical farming/water treatment stuff you need and power it off.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

I’m not sure what you’re aiming for when you kinda proved my point.

You cited a youtube video, something that would be inaccessible during doomsday as a source of info, and the whole point is to have all the power supply and survival solutions in place before doomsday and the youtube video would be pointless.

Look, unless it’s a slow decline where you have some access to power and time to develop survival tools and skills to use this box it’s pointless as you’ve already developed the survival tools and skills. As an archive of other skills and knowledge it’s only as useful as the longevity of the storage media and the devices used to access it (monitor, keyboard, pi, etc).

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

I have HDDs that have been with me for almost 10 years. I need to replace one with one that I can use as a backup for all of them AND have some to spare.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Looks super cool wish there was a version with more storage. 256/512gb is on the low side for end of the world

[–] Obsidieon@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It seems that they are working on a premium version of the PrepperDisk with up to 1TB of storage space. They will also be bundling that with an AI LLM implementation trained with the data present on the PrepperDisk.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Now that sounds like a winner to me. I will be on the lookout

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What kind of storage do they use? Because SSDs left unpowered will lose data.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Unpowered for how long? 6+ months?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

I would think most consumer drives will be OK with that, but it varies, and the race to make things ever cheaper has only increased that. AFAIK, the more data they try to pack into a cell (SLC/MLC/TLC/QLC), the more likely they are to be affected by unpowered data loss.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/unpowered-ssd-endurance-investigation-finds-severe-data-loss-and-performance-issues-reminds-us-of-the-importance-of-refreshing-backups

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 hours ago

Wouldn't something like this be potentially quite useful if you live in an area that could easily see a natural disaster that results in weeks without a connection to the outside world? Sure you could build a raspberry pi to do it yourself but not everyone is capable of doing that and its also a low power consumption device which is useful to keep your backup power going longer, ideally through a battery as a generator normally doesn't do very low wattage efficiently. Solar is variable and lower power demands means you can go smaller, or helps keep it more reliable.

I find prepper stuff has a fine line between reasonable preparation for something that may well happen and then you get into the crazies that think the world is ending and they are actually going to achieve anything in such a situation beyond dying alone.

As I live in the UK the most likely disaster is a couple cm of snow which will break most infrastructure, shops will run out of things like milk and bread for days. This happened a few years ago, I had to resort to making tortillas instead for my lunch.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 4 hours ago

My doomsday kit is just a bottle of SoCo and a camping chair.

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