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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago

This is old news, no idea how this asshole still has a job.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 170 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Niccol travels regularly from his home in Newport Beach, California, to Starbucks' headquarters in Seattle, Washington, via private jet. Each 2,000-mile round-trip commute releases nearly nine tons of carbon dioxide.

The National Center for Public Policy Research's Free Enterprise Project's director Stefan Padfield pointed out the discrepancy of policy and practice during his presentation of Proposal 8 requesting an annual report on emissions congruency. He noted that each round trip made by Niccol "is roughly the annual energy-consumption footprint of the typical American household."

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 132 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s not even just super rich. I used to work for a company that did about 200m in sales and the boss was taking a private jet at lease once a week. Then he laid off 20% of his company in 2024 instead of flying first class.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago

They’ll risk increased chance of crashing and lose hundreds of productive employees than rub elbows with hoi polloi.

Makes you think.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Name and shame!

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

And yet, it's the Average Joe's and Jane's fault for not buying EVs.

[–] truxnell@infosec.pub 23 points 1 day ago

I have a plan at $job that will reduce our CO2 emissions a year by ~330 tonnes.

Almost makes you wonder why bother sometimes

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 day ago (2 children)

His commute was pointed out before his first day on the job. They don't care.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Yep. I remember the news article calling him out for not wanting to move and taking a private jet to work instead.

No repercussions at all. People are shocked when he actually did the things he said??

[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Mario might 😬

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 100 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Haven't bought stuff from sbux in the last few months because of their union busting and DEI rollbacks. Seems like it was the right choice.

[–] Crewman@sopuli.xyz 83 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I don't buy from them because their coffee is bad.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

It tastes like you're sucking on a match. All these years and they still don't know how to roast correctly or control brewing temperature.

Also their management are evil. So there are two good reasons to avoid them.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago

"You don't buy from Starbucks because of social issues.

I don't buy from Starbucks because their coffee is bad.

We are not the same."

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Petes is soooo much better.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I've never seen a Pete's coffee shop, I thought it was just a supermarket brand.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Peets only operated on the US West Coast for many decades. They were selling good coffee back when Howard Schultz was trying to get into roasting, then opened a coffee shop in the Seattle Pike Place market. They cut some kind of non-compete deal but I believe it's no longer in force.

In California, Graffeo is a better roaster than Peet's, but they don't brew coffee. And they only have two retail outlets for their beans.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

They have physical locations too. I'm on the east coast so they're not as popular here. Major city though.

Used to have like 6 locations but they're down to 2 now that I know of in my state.

You can also just aim for local shops instead of chains.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s a Bay Area company. They aren’t all over the U.S. According to a map on their website there are 286. Approximately 47.5% are located in the Bay Area.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a Bat Area company

Gotham?

... are located in the Bay Area

Ohh... Way less cool

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 2 points 6 hours ago

Look Starbucks owes Peet’s everything. That company started off buying from Peet’s.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think they sell coffee, just like subway doesn't sell 12 inch sandwiches.

They sell coffee flavored sugar water.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Venti (20 oz) Peppermint White Chocolate Mocha: 580 calories

Big mac: 590 calories

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The big Mac is probably better for your body. I mean less bad. Don't wanna really say "healthier" but I'm sure you get my meaning.

I Googled it and the bullshit Ai summary is REALLY going to bat for starfucks. First it compared a grande mocha to a whole big Mac combo (480 vs 1100 cal) , the when I specified "venti" and "sandwich" it decided to make the mocha a nonfat milk with no whip which brought it down to 400.

Regardless, 72g of sugar in that friggin thing.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I relied too heavily on chatgpt search.

12oz Peppermint White Chocolate Mocha is 360cal so 20oz is 600cal.

It got the 590cal big mac correct

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I wanted to compare the nutrition info directly but it's a hassle on mobile so I had to try to sucker the Google ai into doing it. It didn't work.

Pretty sure the mocha is on par with or worse than the big Mac in every way except sodium.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My days of not purchasing anything from Starbucks are definitely coming to a middle

[–] StickyDango@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Being able to feel pious about it is a nice bonus, though, lol

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 2 points 18 hours ago

Well they have been caught multiple times buying from slave labor farms in Brazil, buying from a farm with child labor in Guatemala and possibly contributing to the decline of commodity prices in 2019 (which was under a $1).

[–] PixelTron@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bad is an understatement! I compare it to Fosters beer, it’s piss water. Had it twice in my life, never again…

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You should try Dunkin Donuts coffee. That's really bad coffee. Starbucks isn't that bad, it's just roasted so bad to make it consistent. Can't tell the difference when it's burned to shit, and most people order what are basically milkshakes with a bit of coffee in them anyway.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Boyd's is the worst coffee. Not sure they have coffee shops anymore. Starbucks is always 'burnt' tasting.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I already never go there, but now I can have a chip on my shoulder about it.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll join you under the smug cloud.

[–] quetzaldilla@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
  1. Boycott and talk to others around you as to why you are boycotting.

  2. Create fake amazing resumes, apply for high-level jobs at Starbucks, Amazon, etc.

  3. Waste their time with interviews, then bail out. Tell them you changed your mind because they have a toxic reputation.

  4. If you already work for one of these corporations, sabotage their operations. There's manuals out there on how to conduct sabotage, but it can be as simple as relaying the wrong day or time for meetings to waste everyone's time, or finding things that are not exactly according to policy and making a big deal about the importance of following policy to the letter, etc.

[–] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

I like my coffee but I don't find it hard to avoid Starbucks. Plus they're not even nice places to go. They've been enshitified big time.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The National Center for Public Policy Research's Free Enterprise Project's director Stefan Padfield pointed out the discrepancy of policy and practice during his presentation of Proposal 8 requesting an annual report on emissions congruency. Padfield suggested, "Perhaps the problem is not the related business practices, but rather the ill-conceived decision to wrap the company in unrealistic climate goals."

The National Center for Public Policy Research (NCPPR), founded in 1982, is a self-described conservative think tank in the United States. -Wikipedia

Group calls out discrepancy between a businesses actions and their stated goals. Then goes on to say that maybe the goals were too unrealistic. Hmm, I manage to make it to my job everyday without using a private jet.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I get offered a job in an office I’m gonna demand a private jet, too.

“What do you mean ICs don’t get private jets?!”

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Those who do the actual work, should get the actual plane!

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

If only they'd adopt work from home instead of fighting against it 🙃