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[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

man trump and repubs cannot keep these people out of their heads can they?

[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I lurk the conservative subreddit sometimes. A couple months ago they posted that “I don’t think about you at all” meme about democrats. The funny thing is that 50-75% of their posts, consistently, are about leftists and democrats lol

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

so this will make things cheaper, right? right?

[–] d33pblu3g3n3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least the article calls it for what it is: A purge.

Will the Americans ever wake up and look around?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Our best bet right now is acceleration.

The administration is trying to boil the frogs slowly enough that people forget their discomfort and worry, so people get used to being without services like social security or medicare slowly enough that America just keeps running but with less benefits for the citizens and more prosperity for the wealthy.

If the administration moves too fast, people will connect the dots and associate their discomforts with the presidency, and there will be popular movements to oust leadership, peaceful or otherwise.

What you're likely going to see happen soon is an "economic stimulus" check program with Trump and Musk's names on checks sent to every American to try to get people to associate them with wealth again. Stick everyone with a 3k - 5k check, while stripping us of tens of thousands of dollars in benefits a year. And it will likely work amazingly well, because our population has memories of goldfish.

So we want them to make more stupid moves faster, we want more people to feel the pain of losing public sector jobs and services, we want chaos and recession and consequence, that is the only way American people will move.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I promise you, he will execute the 3 former Democrat presidents, before he goes total-war against Canada.

Biden, Obama, & Clinton, he will have executed.

This is just a minor escalation in the way of his Purge, this ISN'T anywhere-near what it is going to be, in less than 3y.

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would really like them to try, they are toeing a line right now because Trump and his closest people aren't there for ideological reasons, they're just trying to make a recession happen so they can all gobble up devalued assets and blame biden or trans kids or something. The outliers are the Millers and Bannons who tried before and will try again to assert an ideological presence to bring about the Fourth Reich, but their hold isn't as strong as the oligarchs who just want money and security for their business empires.

You don't sustain a business empire when popular political figures are getting jailed, much less if they're being executed. That would signal the beginning of the actual overthrow of Democracy and if they do it too fast, that would immediately trigger massive popular uprisings and they would lose a lot of control. As it is, the donor-class is looking at the administration right now with a LOT of apprehension about current market destabilization.

Capital doesn't want instability, and would rather go back to a country of rules and regulations than see the entire market literally burn to the ground, so we would see a sudden and dramatic tone shift in politics broadly, we would see media channels turn on Trump's administration instantly, we would see prominent republicans in house and senate suddenly start forming opposition groups, we would see impeachment.

Let us make no mistakes about what's happening. There are people who do indeed want to turn America into a monarchy and they have longer-term plans to do so, and may succeed, but they want it WITH the wealth and prosperity that we have now, they don't want a banana republic, they just want a really big class-divide so they can have while we have-not.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

He won't, at least one person in his administration knows that's a fast track to civil war. We didn't love those leaders dearly, but we recognize that they did their duty more or less honorably and patriotically. They are much more useful to Trump as scapegoats than martyrs.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 108 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Surely this will lower the price of eggs?

🤣

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Any day now, Trump will lower them!

...Any second now...

See, eggs! Wait no, that's blood...

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

meet the ~~spy~~ krasnov

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hillary Clinton must be happy for platforming Trump in 2016.

[–] skytrim@reddthat.com 82 points 2 days ago (31 children)

I play Skyrim. In that rpg video game you can be an assassin. After you kill Grelod the Kind, a child abuser, one of the children she tortured says:

"Kill one person, and you can solve so many problems. I wonder at the possibilities." - Runa Fair-Shield.

When does assassination become an acceptable political strategy? I can see how bumping off many crazy men (and right now I can only name male dictators but I guess women could be just as bad) would make the world safer - well, safer if we assume it would not trigger a backlash and WW3.

Maybe we could assassinate Kim and North Korea would rejoice not set off nukes? Maybe we could assassinate MbS and the Saudis would just shrug and appoint a new Crown Prince with a less murderous tendancy towards journalists and dissidents? But could we assassinate Putin, Trump, Xi, or Modi and not release hell?

If I had a red button to press and it would remove Putin, Trump, Musk, Thiel, Hamas, Netanyahu, or other bad guys, should I press the button? What do you think?

Note: this is a thought experiment - outside Skyrim, I never killed anyone, never worked as an assassin for hire, and have no desire to change that fact. I just want to read your thoughts on this topic - I think we've all wondered if there is a shortcut back to normality in face of current events but are we fooling ourselves?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Whatever gets everybody the closest to no violence, including systemic, is best.

[–] skytrim@reddthat.com 1 points 5 hours ago

A world at peace, true peace based on justice and happiness not enforced by oppression and brainwashing, is my hope. It's what humans need. It's what I need :-) I would prefer democracy, votes, laws, regulations, social norms all coming together to deliver that. Right now, it is others who are 'moving fast and breaking stuff' so my puzzle is how to slow 'em down and mend stuff before it goes too far to save anything good. Can I do that without violence or not? I prefer not but is it my choice? I am not the powerful one here, it's the guys with guns and nukes who are running this show, and they seem hell-bent on violence. Do I let them roll over me or take a stand, however token? I am old enough to remember Tiananmen Square protests and that guy standing in front of a column of tanks asking the soldiers to go back to barracks and not brutalise peaceful protesters. I witnessed the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests. I ask myself have I the guts to do as much? Will I be a coward and let the tanks roll? Just being honest and thinking aloud. And worried, very worried, about where things are headed.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When does assassination become an acceptable political strategy?

According to the Supreme Court, it was a presidential option back while Biden was still in office.

[–] skytrim@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Interesting... Thanks for that info. I am a Brit, I wonder what plans our secret services have prepared for different scenarios (Russia, China, North Korea ... and now USA). Looks like world is going back to Macchiavelli (if we ever really left).

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think when Julius Ceasar was assassinated it turned the republic into an empire, IIRC. Might need more people to go to avoid some shit like emperor Vance.

Sigh… I dunno anymore man. What insane times.

[–] skytrim@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

Beware the Ides of March, huh?

If I recall, Shakespeare's Caesar says to Antony:

*Let me have men about me that are fat,

Sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights.

Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look,

He thinks too much; such men are dangerous.*

Trump certainly has plenty of fat men around him. I just thought it was a coincidence rather than a strategy but maybe he has some well-read people in his security team? Nah, on reflection, I think it's just a coincidence.

[–] brookdale05@lemm.ee 35 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Good people don’t become assassins, something bad people don’t have problems with.

It’s never Hitler, Putin, Stalin or Trump who get assassinated. Always JFK, Martin Luther King, Bobby, …

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

I mean, plenty tried to kill Hitler. He was just really good at not getting assassinated. Frequent last-minute changes to planned public appearances helped a lot

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[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Putin and Xi...I'm pretty sure that, if they were topped, there's enough institutional Authoritarianism that either there would be a "clean" and immediate change to someone with the next highest authority....or it would fall into civil war with just as much speed, rounds of assassinations back and forth until the power vacuum is filled by someone able to pull everyone left to heel....or the whole government falls apart....

[–] skytrim@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

I know too little about Russia to know who is a contender to replace Putin or if when he goes the system that created him will go too. I am trying to educate myself on that.

As for China, I know a bit more but I am no expert. Given my limited insight, I am surprised that Xi is still in power. I expected the Communist Party to have 'neutralised' him, not necessarily bumped him off but to have taken away his power and reduced him to a figurehead, especially after he mishandled the pandemic and has struggled to fix China's economic woes. He is basically a thug. If all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail. But you cannot beat a pandemic with a hammer nor fix inflation or unemployment or pollution with one. You must have as many tools as possible - Chinese perfected the toolkit of government over thousands of years. Sophisticated people in Chinese government must think Xi is an ignorant lout. I suspect they keep him in place because its better for the people who really run China to have a useful idiot as a puppet than to go through the uncertainties of replacing him - more or less how they handled the Kim regime in North Korea until lately. Putin and Kim collaborating on Ukraine must have really angered China which is probably why Chinese are considering sending 'peace-keeping' troops to Ukraine. Xi is a pig in a drawing room and the real government is just working around him.

It is hard to tell how much of the reportage about Xi is 'smoke and mirrors'. I recently saw a viral report on Reddit and in The Guardian newspaper (probably going around all the news outlets) about Chinese military exercises and some special navy vessels (biggest of their kind! etc) they had which were supposed to provide support for amphibian landings of tanks etc. Every report spins this as 'China war games is preparation for invading Taiwan - shock!'. I am very sceptical. Xi is apparently the driving force behind sabre-rattling rhetoric against Taiwan and building up PRC military might (his new bigger hammer), but I reckon most of Chinese government are not interested in a war with anyone least of all Taiwan - I think they expect to recover Taiwan eventually, by peaceful means, and are happy if it takes a century cos that long timescale is how Chinese think. So, given this split between Xi and the rest, I have the sense this whole media story is just a performance - whether it is to fool the world about China's military aggressiveness (advertising Xi's policy) or is some part of Chinese administration doing this to fool Xi he's still in charge (covert anti-Xi policy), I cannot tell. I just don't have enough facts to judge what these military manouvres tell us about Chinese government or, on the bigger scale, what real difference it would make if Xi was not around.

We (in UK) get 24/7 coverage of Trump's idiocies but not real information on other political leaders. I am European and I could not name five European political leaders, let alone predict the outcome if one were assassinated. As for politics in rest of globe, I am just clueless for the most part but I do try to educate myself. I have to create my own news feeds because the MSM is worthless.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Chinese would certainly just appoint a new president, no problem. Xi might be in charge, but the Chinese communist party isn't some vestigial organ. Russia, however... Putin's been exclusively in charge for long enough and with no immediately clear successor that I'm almost certain that his death is going to result in a power struggle and civil war.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We have a tendency to think of these problems like mechanical systems, where if you pull one pin, the machine stops. It’s better to consider them like weeds… you have a dandelion in your yard, yes, but there is a field of green flat little plants growing before the first cotton bandit sticks its head up. To deal with a weed infestation, you either need to get every single one, make the environment inhospitable to the weed, or introduce something you want that crowds them out.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

“Kill one person, and you can solve so many problems. I wonder at the possibilities.” - Runa Fair-Shield.

The whole of human history is solving a problem which then creates bigger, more complicated problems to solve.

See also: The assassination of Franz Ferdinand

See also see also: The Treaty of Westphalia

[–] skytrim@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Creating bigger problems. Exactly why I ponder if assassination does any good or just recoils on you. But I think that its usefulness is contingent on who kills whom.

I guess that is why there are so few assassinations of elite figures - it threatens the stability that protects the elite so the elite do not assassinate each other.

However, assassinating non-elite people - terrorists and revolutionaries is routine. The elites (governments of nation states, their sub-contractors) have even mechanised assassination by using remote-controlled drone attacks. This stabalises their control.

So, if elites assassinate those that threaten them, it typically works in their favour. But if non-elites do it to elites, does it empower them or not? If it causes chaos and instability amongst the elite, and the chaos spreads to wider society, and does harm to bystanders or even brings about war, is this a price worth paying, or even a good and necessary outcome?

Honestly, I am still struggling with these questions. Part of me thinks 'sauce for goose, sauce for gander' and the tyrants deserve to die by their own methods turned back on them. Another part of me knows war is terrible, especially for 'ordinary people' and for the environment, and should be avoided. But there is such a thing as 'a just war' and armed struggle can be morally good or even our duty.

So, I go back and forth.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 298 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The president accused Bolton of publishing sensitive information and said the book's publication "created a grave risk that classified material was publicly exposed."

This classified material?

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 95 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Is… is this the real picture? Of the classified material that was shared by trump? Holy fuck lmfao. I thought it was like one letter or something, secretly hidden under the rug; this looks hilarious I’m sorry.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 88 points 2 days ago (7 children)

That’s not even the worst of it. Several rooms full of documents were found at his property and, though everyone seems to focus on the toilet one, IMO the worst is the one of a storage room full of classified documents plus a scanner/printer.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what was the republican defense on this one? i dont remeber. wasnt it just like a stab back like "hunters laptop though!"

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

Hunter’s laptop, Hillary’s emails again, but it was mostly that Biden had some documents, too. Trump shouted that all presidents do this, and that what Biden had was worse, and his followers believed that without looking into any context (like all Biden had was some memos, copies of personal notes, etc, and that Biden immediately turned everything over and invited the feds to his home to look for more).

The scale was nowhere near the same, Biden hadn’t intentionally removed classified documents or tried to keep them from the feds, but none of that mattered. Trump saying he was entitled to the documents because everyone else did it was enough for his followers.

[–] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (25 children)

I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

And this guy is actually the president. Fuck America. How could this happen.

I fucking had less boxes when I moved into my new apartment lmfao.

The printer is a nice little touch. Love the black accent between all these white boxes.

I mean this honestly: You would tell me if this was fake, right? This is actually real?

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[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 117 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Yes that's one of the actual pictures from the indictment they brought against him. He apparently had like 300 different documents of varying levels of classified status. There's a couple more iirc of different places like a bedroom and a ballroom stage too. Basically it seems like he had his goons just hide anything he could get his hands on in random boxes of what were supposed to be just irrelevant personal effects

He was only indicted specifically for like 30 of them but my understanding is they specifically chose ones they were willing to have potentially entirely exposed.

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