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President Donald Trump’s administration on Wednesday ordered a halt to New York City’s congestion pricing system, which thins traffic and funds mass transit by imposing high tolls on drivers entering some parts of Manhattan.

Launched on Jan. 5, the city’s system uses license plate readers to impose a $9 toll on most passenger cars entering Manhattan neighborhoods south of Central Park. In its early days, transit officials say the toll has brought modest but measurable traffic reductions.

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States rights.

Sure man.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

How can he legally interject into what is clearly a local government matter?

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How is it that he has this power?

[–] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

MTA says he doesn't have that power, and the toll program will continue unless ordered to stop by a court.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/d0d7398bc4e60a2f/7ae68b5d-full.pdf

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Because, so far, we are letting him.

[–] MyRobotShitsBolts@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You haven't heard? He's the new king now, he can do whatever.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The new selfproclaimed king, like all kings

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I believe Tywin Lannister had something to say about that

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The mayor of NYC is facing corruption charges, and Trump has the power to pardon him. So Mayor Adams is a puppet of Trump.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the dumbest thing.. Why should I have to walk past disgusting vehicles belching exhaust while going nowhere?

We should just ban personal vehicles in Manhattan it makes no sense when this city has the best public transit in the US.. ditch car infrastructure, and build cheap $900 a month apartments that people can sustainably live in.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 172 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny how they run on this mythic yesteryear of the fifties... yet neglect the notion that the fifties were funded by the highest wealth taxes, street cars were everywhere, and there were MASSIVE public works projects EVERYWHERE.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 33 points 2 days ago

I don’t get it either, we do it in the UK too.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a bummer that New York City has to fund welfare for states that hate them so much, like Kentucky, Mississippi, and Alabama. If that weren't the case it would be much easier to fund transit improvements.

[–] patacon_pisao@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those states would be worse off if states like NY or CA decided to secede one day, though I’m aware that’s nearly impossible to do. What’s crazy to me is that the states that contribute most are the ones most shitted on for being “too liberal.”

If NY were run by MAGA, I bet the economy would tank and it wouldn’t be able to contribute anything to the states that are already poor.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone says its nearly impossible to do but MAGA keeps doing the impossible. JUST FUCKING SECEDE.

[–] The_Caretaker@urbanists.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@FreakinSteve @patacon_pisao
States that are done with President Musk can just stop paying federal taxes, stop accepting federal money, and stop federal taxes from being deducted from the wages of employees in the state. Fire their congressmen and senators. Let's do it.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

States don't pay federal taxes. Individuals pay federal taxes. No single individual wants to face prison for not paying their taxes so everyone pays them. NYC banks would have to refused federal court orders to withdraw taxes from individual accounts. State troops would need to defend individuals from federal arrest for non payment of taxes.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This post (understandably, somewhat) glances over cheeto calling himself King when he declared this on twatter

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I didn't even see that until this morning. I just saw this article on ground news and figured I'd share it

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[–] doc@fedia.io 75 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What authority do the feds have here? More nonsense to demoralize and distract.

[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The interstate bridges and tunnels that go into New York City are owned and run by the Port Authority, which has federal oversight in addition to oversight from the states of New Jersey and New York.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What does this have to do with the downtown congestion pricing?

[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The bridges and tunnels are where they collect the tolls for people coming into Manhattan. Also, on the ferries, which are also run by the Port Authority

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It sounds like they need to collect the toll right after the tunnel then.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, except the Mayor has committed a bunch of federal crimes and Trump is having them dismissed in exchange for his cooperation.

They're being dismissed without prejudice so they can be refiled at any time.

It's highly unlikely that the Mayor will do anything that's not in Trump's best interest for as long as he is in office.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

The governor needs to dismiss the mayor. She has the power.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are you sure you’re not talking about the wrong toll? I haven’t been to NYC recently enough so don’t know how they implemented congestion tolls, but that’s different from the tunnel and bridge tolls.

All I can find online is “MTA installed license plate readers around the city”

[–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 days ago

So no authority

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago
[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

No matter how they spin it, main reason for doing congestion pricing was to fight how slow both emergency response and mass transit was getting.

Literally killing people, rich and poor alike.

[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago

Last time I was in Manhattan, walking to Penn station, I passed an ambulance with lights and sirens trying to get through. 6 blocks later I looked back and saw I was now 2 blocks ahead of it.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago

States rights

To bow to our Republican monarch

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hey NYC drivers, just purposely cause traffic. Sit in your car in the middle of the road - by the tens of thousands. You let him take one thing from you, and you're giving him permission to take everything from you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I'm guessing the people dumb enough to drive in NYC are not displeased about what Trump did.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

They're already doing this or may as well be

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You know....I kinda think it's time we tell him to pound sand. Fucking seriously, who's going to enforce it? The defunded letter agencies?

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just add it to Mayor Adams's quid pro quo list. Much like I bet he's going to run for governor on the "I'll pardon Trump" platform.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Seems like Adams needs to be Adjusted

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Enforcing the congestion pricing does take people and money. I'm not sure how much NYC was getting from the feds to do this but it's probably something.

Probably, then when they don’t they’ll blame those agencies, I’m not sure why else other than to create divide.

[–] PapaSkwat@lemy.lol 27 points 2 days ago

States rights, amirite?

[–] superkret@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How the FUCK has he the authority to do that?

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn't Mayor Adams now Trump's bitch because he ordered the corruption chargers dropped?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes.

Not only that is that they were filed to be dismissed without prejudice so, if he doesn't cooperate, they can simply refile the charges and throw him in prison.

Totally normal and healthy open corruption

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Federal government has to approve tolls on interstates and Trump revoked the approval given by the previous administration. Though the other poster isn't exactly wrong with the mayor Adams thing. That's probably how they'll ensure the toll booths don't just move 2 ft off the interstate onto city/state property

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Finding new lows, eh?

[–] dumples@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago

In a statement, U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy announced the federal government has rescinded its approval of the program, calling it “slap in the face to working class Americans and small business owners.”

At first I was wondering when Sean P Diddy Combs was appointed Transportation Secretary. I get that he is accused of sexual assaults which is a great qualification but still......

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