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U.S. aircraft carrier collides with merchant ship in Mediterranean Sea. (www.thecentersquare.com)
submitted 5 days ago by Cat@ponder.cat to c/news@lemmy.world
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The USS Harry Truman collided with a merchant ship in the Mediterranean Sea near Port Said, Egypt, on Wednesday evening.

No injuries or ship flooding have been reported by Navy officials.

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[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This can't possibly be unintentional right?

Remember an aircraft carrier is not just an airport on a ship, it's also the intelligence center and CIC of the entire battle group, so an aircraft carrier is equipped with literally the best radar and sensor suites of any vessel in the entire navy, that combined with the sheer number of people that will be on watch duty on such a massive ship, there is simply no possibility it could somehow "accidentally miss" a cargo ship to a point where a collision could happen.

While on the other side, Suez canal is some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world, so all cargo vessels follow strictly prescribed paths when leaving the canal, there's no reason for one single exiting ship among a swarm of them to have gone out its way to have a chance to collide with an incoming vessel, one that's has the best sensor suite as well as some of the most powerful propulsion capabilities.

Am I missing something here???

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The collision occurred while they were transiting the anchorage outside the canal. There was a ton of traffic.

Check out my man Sal's overview of the situation: https://youtu.be/OqRe-ouavjw

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago

Thanks, very informative.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Saw on another source neither the US carrier or its support destroyer were broadcasting their beacons. According to that source this is allowed when air operations are occurring, but there's no indication they were, so the US ships should have been broadcasting.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

*were not broadcasting

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

*were not broadcasting

Incorrect to what I was trying to communicate.

*were not performing air operations.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

*were not broadcasting

Incorrect to what I was trying to communicate.

*were not performing air operations.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You weren't trying to say they weren't broadcasting AIS?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah, that "were". For that one I had said "neither the US carrier or its support destroyer were broadcasting". With your suggested edit your "not" would negate my "neither" making the statement communicate that the ships WERE broadcasting.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah, I read it wrong. My bad.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

No worries at all. Long after the fact I thought of two or three ways to make it more understandable. I gave up a long time ago trying to fix the past to perfection. :)

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 35 points 5 days ago

This is what happens when you put DUI hires at the top.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Something about this just doesn’t make sense. Aircraft carriers aren’t lone ships out on the seas. They’re surrounded by a small fleet of destroyers and frigates meant to protect them. How did this ship manage to slink past said fleet and collide with the carrier?

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

Well that one's clear;it was by the canal

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How/why was a merchant ship allowed to be anywhere near an aircraft carrier? Did the US learn nothing from the USS Cole?

[–] remon@ani.social 36 points 5 days ago

It's pretty crowded around the suez canal.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Port Said is the entrance to the Suez canal. Ships congregate there while waiting to transit.

[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I get that. Standard operating procedure for something as valuable as an aircraft carrier should still be to schedule transit so that it can sit in a position protected by escorts until it is it's turn to go.

Realistically, the carrier should probably have half it's escorts go first and form a protective envelope on the destination side before it enters, then the remaining escorts follow providing rear cover.

A ship getting there by accident means someone also could have done it on purpose without the crew knowing it was an attack (this time)

Its sloppy at best, neglegent at worst and not a good look either way.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

US ships don't wait around to enter the Suez. They coordinate with the US consulate in Egypt to ensure timely transits. Despite all of the technology and lookout requirements, these giant ships are still ponderously slow to maneuver, so my assumption is that this collision occurred due to emergent factors like changing weather conditions rather than just simple human error.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 27 points 5 days ago

pretty big ship

Both ships were operating near Port Said, Egypt, at the time, Gorman said in a brief news release.

This is a super busy area. Port Said is at the Mediterranean entrance of the Suez Canal, so both ships were probably in designated navigation channels which would mean restricted maneuvering...

There should have been a bunch of people on the Truman actively watching everything if that were the case. I wonder if we'll get to see any of the deck camera footage.

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

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[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

www.thecentersquare.com U.S. aircraft carrier collides with merchant ship in Mediterranean Sea Sarah Roderick-Fitch | The Center Square 2 - 3 minutes

(The Center Square) – The USS Harry Truman collided with a merchant ship in the Mediterranean Sea near Port Said, Egypt, on Wednesday evening.

No injuries or ship flooding have been reported by Navy officials.

The U.S. Sixth Fleet Public Affairs released a statement confirming the collision involved the merchant vessel Besiktas-M.

According to the Sixth Fleet's statement, “The collision did not endanger the Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) as there are no reports of flooding or injuries. The propulsion plants are unaffected and in a safe and stable condition. The incident is under investigation.”

Port Said is located at the entrance to the Suez Canal on the Mediterranean. Navy officials have not disclosed if the 100,000-ton nuclear-powered carrier was transiting the canal at the time of the collision, which occurred at around 11:45 p.m. local time.

The Truman, homeported in Norfolk, Va., deployed in September 2024 and, according to the ship’s social media, most recently held a port visit in Greece. The ship has a crew of approximately 5,000 sailors and Marines.

In the summer of 2017, the Navy experienced two ship collisions between two merchant ships, both occurring in the Seventh Fleet's area of responsibility.

In June 2017, the USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62), a destroyer, collided with the ACX Crystal, a Philippine-flagged container ship just over 60 miles southwest of Yokosuka, Japan, home of the U.S. Navy’s Seventh Fleet. The collision resulted in the deaths of seven sailors. Several factors were blamed for the collision, including lack of communication and crew fatigue.

In August 2017, the USS John S. McCain (DDG 56), a destroyer, collided with the Alnic MC, a Liberian-flagged tanker, off the coast of Singapore. The collision resulted in the deaths of 10 sailors. The primary cause for that collision was blamed on “insufficient training, inadequate bridge operating procedures,” and lack of operational oversight, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Did Trump fire the navigator?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Pete Hegseth was allowed to drive. And he was shitfaced.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did the front fall off?

[–] Idontevenknowanymore@mander.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No. We don't do that here.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, I came here for an argument

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Terribly sorry, arguments are over in room 3B.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 4 days ago

DON’T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Waiting for them to blame it on DEI

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

There is a picture in this thread. The merchant ship was indeed black.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 5 days ago

Seventh fleet headquarters to the Sixth fleet when they aren't involved in a collision.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

After what I've seen at sea, I'm gonna guess that's the merchant vessel's fault.