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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 minutes ago

Mentioning Windows in a poaitive context vs Linux results in al.oat crucifixation. /s

[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago

The behavior doesn't feel much different, but the smaller community makes it more common for people to engage with you, and that makes it feel more like a community.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

People here aren't immediatly hostile if you say positive things about Linux.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 minutes ago

But the reverse happens for Windows. Not as much but you can notice it.

Easier to actually have a conversation here. Even if you’re on /all.

Whereas on Reddit by the time it reached the main page any comment would be buried so deep you’ll never get a reply.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 11 points 23 hours ago

I'm more likely to have conversations. I tended to lurk pretty deep in threads on Reddit, or on niche hobby communities, but that vibe is much more available here.

There seems to be more good faith discussions here. I see more people apologising, or responding well to being called out. I realise this is largely a function of size of the site, and thus this nice energy is likely fleeting, but I am heartened by it nonetheless; people like us will always exist, and there will always be a place for us (even if we need to make it ourselves).

[–] camilledockham@jlai.lu 13 points 1 day ago

It's been less "mechanistic" so far: fewer canned replies, fewer "oh this post again". It's partly because of there being very few bots and less astroturfing, but also I think it's just the mindset, people here may be less likely to be passive consumers. On reddit I kept having the issue of people misreading everything I posted, because they barely cared about what they had on their screen and wanted everything on it to cater to their taste. Big social networks encourage a form of algorithmic solipsism.

[–] TypicalHog@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lemmy is WAY more left-leaning and instance/community mods are often more trigger-happy when removing comments/banning people.

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[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I never really commented on Reddit.

Here on Lemmy though, I feel like I should.

Also, it feels like that on Reddit, people were commenting and posting mostly to get karma, on Lemmy it's more like people comment to actually say something or to express their opinions.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I feel like the lack of karma adds in to the civility, but I can't say that for certain. On Reddit, seeing someone's karma count seems to sway people's opinions before even reading what that person says. But here, those votes don't carry over. In other words, each comment offers a "clean slate."

There are a few usernames I see and interact with here often. Sometimes I agree with a comment, sometimes I disagree with a comment, but without a total karma count tied to every user, each comment is free to stand on its own regardless of who said it. One bad take doesn't spoil a person's reputation. Vice versa, having one fantastic take doesn't automatically elevate a user who might post something toxic in the future.

seeing someone's karma count seems to sway people's opinions before even reading what that person says

Wait, people actually look that up on individual profiles? I only check that when someone has an extremely shit troll-level comment or is 'karma whoring' particularly egregiously.

feel like the lack of karma adds in to the civility,

I largely agree, but my stance is that it removes the point of 'karma whoring', since that really only exists on Reddit to later sell the account or inflate someone's ego

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To be honest, here's the difference: Lemmy has fewer voices. That's mostly it.

I think there's less trolling and fewer bots, but it's not by a lot and that's just for now. If Lemmy gains popularity, it will get just as much negative attention, the main difference will be in moderation.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Like a lot fewer...

I realized I was in a community with 1 subscriber, I am not entirely sure if that subscriber was me? I didn't even create or have involvement in it... I think it was in a recommendation list when I started.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The views expressed are more to the left and much more anti big-tech, which makes sense. Discussions are a bit more civil on average and there seems to be much less blatant karma-farming. At least that's the case on my instance, which blocks some of the more... controversial ones. Speaking of which though, the differences between various instances do shape discussions on Lemmy quite a bit, which Reddit of course doesn't have. You can often have a pretty good guess on a user's attitudes, political views and demeanor just by looking at their instance.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Not like you can even farm "karma" here in the first place. Lemmy doesn't have karma I'm pretty sure.

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[–] LittleRatInALittleHat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Most people are more polite here

Most of them are left leaning to various degrees so despite the infighting we're all still on the same team.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

fuck you and your opinion! /s

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

People are more genuinely interested in actually contributing to a conversation here and likely to read through your stuff/reply. I feel more seen.

Reddit is a generic corporate algoritm flavored slop with LLMs with an agenda talking to human morons somehow dumber and less aware than the LLMs. Lemmy is at least mostly human but has a personality archetype bias that takes getting used to. Even on niche communities here theres a high likelyhood you're talking to someone whos either a left leaning political activist, is really into alternative gender identity politics, knows a lot about information technology/STEM, has some serious kinky fetishes, is neurodivergent, or a mix of the above.

So you have the conversational pitfalls that come from talking to tech nerds, liberal arts students, the loud and proud members of lgbqt+, tankies, and all the in between relatively outcast groups that didn't fit well on reddit in the first place. Every 1/10 post on all is going to be about how fucked the climate change is, lgbqt rights, femboys, trump/elon/conservative republicans doing something stupid or evil or facist, a really unfunny 'meme' thats really about spreading some message or showcasing how victimized X minority group is, why linux is good and windows/microsoft bad, some half baked plan by young political activist who think they can overthrow a global corporatocracy with some clever cordinated consumer protesting. At least the content is overall consistent.

As someone who doesn't really identify with most of these im left feeling lemmy isn't for me sometimes but its a decent enough social outlet that I can tune out the stuff I don't care for while being involved with the niche communities im actually here to be part of.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know you're complaining, but I think you just described a good chunk of the reasons why I like Lemmy and the fediverse in general.

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It feels wrong to hit the "block" button for something I'm simply not interested in, but ever since I started using it to curate my home page, the content has become more relevant to me. Personally, I never had the patience to get into coding, so I block communities about it. I have nothing against it, and I love that coders have communities they can take part in, but blocking that topic means more space for things I like when scrolling through All.

I think Lemmy's still in the process of maturing. I would love to see the kind of niche communities that Reddit has, where the topic of the sub is oddly specific yet not polarizing. I even have an idea for one that can provide some of that energy, but I'm trying to save up more content for potential posts before taking the leap to create it.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your presence here as someone who doesn't identify with those groups brings tremendous value to this space. Your perspective is different and you might encourage others like you to join.

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[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 33 points 1 day ago

You might need to be more specific, since there is a new wave of former redditors joining.

As a former redditor, who joined ~2 years ago, it was very friendly and wholesome when I joined, but has been getting more toxic in recent times.

[–] Sarcophagus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There are less women here and that's really saying something

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

How do we know how many women are here?

I think A LOT of people here are women, trans, nonbinary, etc. the part of cwm pretty sure is a bit lower than everywhere else.

The important distinction in the fedi is: nobody cares what your gender is because it does not matter in the slightest.

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People are usually a lot less toxic here, conversations are more civil.

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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Not always; Fuck you. I wish you the best.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It’s like Reddit from 18 years ago, if everyone then had kept expecting it to work like Reddit from 18 months ago.

Early Reddit had no subreddits, and then it just had a handful of major ones—it wasn’t until it got a much larger user base that all the thousands of niche subreddits became viable. (There were still plenty of conversations about niche topics—they just took place within larger subreddits instead of dedicated subreddits with their own associated infrastructure.) But ex-redditors on lemmy expect those fine-grained niche communities to work right from the start, before there are enough users to keep them all active.

(I wonder if one solution might be for every community to have a designated “parent” community, where if activity falls below a certain threshold, posts and subscriptions get temporarily redirected to the parent community until activity picks up again.)

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Less repetitive, less "inside" jokes that get spammed, people reply. I got used to arguing so much that I get defensive here, everyone wants to argue over everything on reddit, while here ppl are more likely to show interest.

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 16 points 1 day ago

If I ask something here, no one will tell me to google it because it was asked before 5 years ago (like mf that information isn't relevant still)

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Reddit is fake liberal idk what it is, mfs say its so liberal but id be forced to see conservative posts with no way to block them

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Id say Reddit the platform is Right-wing because of the CEO's manipulation, Reddit the user base is definitely towards the left.

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[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never comment on posts >100 comments. They'll never get seen. Here? There's a good chance to reply.

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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

A lot less conversations about whether ChatGPT was an asshole at his cousin’s wedding

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They are pretty much the same people, with the communities being split a bit differently. People on Lemmy tend to think "they are different".

I haven't been on reddit since rif stopped working , so I'm comparing to those years and before. There's just as much bigotry, ad hominems and unnecessary fighting/arguing.

Edit: aside from all the lemmy porn, i never blocked subs or filtered words on either platform. People will do that heavily and have their own little view of lemmy/reddit

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My mom is the target of a significantly smaller proportion of the community here. Maybe they're younger here.

[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I bet your mom is a nice lady.

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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lemmy is far more left than reddit which is impressive because I already felt reddit had a hefty left wing bias. I didn't know how much more left you could get until I got here lol.

The userbase is a much less varied. Being more skewed towards the extremely progressive and tech savvy "nerd" types. Which makes sense.

The quality of conversations here seems better. More actual responses and less "meme dunking" karma type comments.

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Far more positive and civil; people actually engage in their replies instead of the stream of recycled quips. Bad faith discussions usually get called out as such; less astroturfing.

Small-ish forums probably help with that too since users run in the same circles and there’s less overall “noise.” It’s also much more imperative to comment on posts since there may not be much engagement otherwise.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Depends massively on what subreddit on Reddit, and to a lesser degree, what community on the Threadiverse. /r/AskHistorians, /r/seventhworldproblems, /r/Europe, and /r/NFL don't have a whole lot in common.

I think that in terms of content, the Threadiverse today is much closer to very early Reddit than to Reddit over the past ten years or so. Reddit used to have a much heavier tech focus, lot of Linux too, though it tended to be more Lisp, academia, and startups. A lot of the people who came over early on the Threadiverse are far-left; the proportions definitely differ a lot there. I'm pretty sure that there's a higher furry and trans content ratio, but that's harder to judge; it may also just be people using avatars and home instances providing a hint.

A significant chunk of people on here seem extremely depressed. That was definitely not my take on especially early Reddit, which was fairly upbeat (though I do remember one Italian guy on /r/Europe who kept talking about how terrible Italy is today and how much better the 1980s were).

I think that there are more people who are kinda...I'm not sure how to put this politely. A little unglued from reality. I mean, I remember back during Bush's time in office, there being a lot of 9/11 conspiracy stuff on Reddit, but I feel like the proportion of people whose general take on everything feels extremely paranoid is a lot higher.

It definitely feels more international, less US-oriented, to me, and I frequented /r/Europe.

I feel like there are more older people. I have seen some website analytics of Reddit, and as I recall, it averaged something like early twenties. That may have changed over time, but I'd still bet that the median age here is higher.

Most of the subreddits that I used had far more users than even the most-active communities on the Threadiverse. This meant that there was a lot more content. On the other hand, it also meant that it was increasingly-common to spend a lot of time writing something, only for it to be buried under a flood of other content; if one didn't get a comment in pretty early in a post, users just skimming top comments might never see it. That was even more-true for posts -- one's chance of a post attracting attention in a community where a new post arrives every few minutes and many people just view top posts was not good, whereas here, I'm pretty sure that almost everyone on a community sees it. I think that Reddit had a better variety and amount of content to consume, whereas I feel that it's more-rewarding to contribute content here.

For the same smaller-size reason, it's a lot more common here for me to recognize usernames. Especially late Reddit, the chance of recognizing anyone off a subreddit, other than a few extremely-prolific posters, was not high. I'm talking to pseudonyms, sure, but it's "Kolanki, that furry dude that I remember", or "Flying Squid, that guy who mods a bunch of communities", not another user name that I'll probably never see or remember. I think that that affects the environment somewhat, that people act differently in a crowd of people that they "know" than in a crowd of strangers.

The Threadiverse in 2025 isn't a full replacement for me in the sense that Reddit has a subreddit with some level of non-zero activity on virtually any topic remotely of interest that I can think of. There are a few subreddits that I used to read regularly, like /r/cataclysmdda, for the video game Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. !catadda@sh.itjust.works has very little activity, and for most video games, software packages, products, etc there isn't a community. Some subreddits dealt with content creation or all sorts of things, and the userbase just isn't here now to support that. So what I talk about differs somewhat.

I feel like users on the Threadiverse are less aggressive. Maybe it's moderation or the userbase or who-knows-what, but I remember a considerably higher proportion of flamewars on Reddit. I felt that there was a much-higher tendency for people to want to get the last word in on Reddit.

I have seen far less trolling than I did on Reddit (or Slashdot).

It's hard for me to judge the impact of LLM-generated bot comments on Reddit. I didn't personally notice many, at least on the (mostly-not-largest-in-size, so maybe not heavily-targeted) subreddits that I followed, but I've seen plenty of people on both Reddit and on the Threadiverse complaining about LLM-generated comments on Reddit, so unless they were outright wrong, either I couldn't pick up on some or they were targeting larger subreddits. It wasn't to the point that my conversations felt degraded, at least not at the time that I left.

The Threadiverse is smaller, and I think that I've seen content on one community inspire related-topic conversations on another. I don't think I recall that on Reddit.

[–] QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I feel like there are more older people. I have seen some website analytics of Reddit, and as I recall, it averaged something like early twenties. That may have changed over time, but I'd still bet that the median age here is higher.

So, apparently at least a few Lemmy apps do not automatically condense whitespace. This means that I very regularly notice comments with "extra" spaces between sentences on Lemmy, which suggests those users are probably at least 35-40 years old.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not quite as many leading experts in their field.

The braintrust is starting to build, we can now have a whatisthisthing community, but you still don't get to say "exoornithological engineers of Lemmy, in your opinion..."

If you're used to the weird wackos being the gay hating bible thumping gun fucking Republicans, they're basically not present here. They're replaced with the "Mao did nothing wrong" crowd.

There is less bandwagon posting here. "this" chains and so forth.

Cross-posting or doing !example@whatever.lol doesn't happen as often as it did on Reddit.

Oh here's a big cultural difference: Lemmy mods tend not to be as anal about their community formats as Reddit mods are. I got a 14 day ban from r/whatisthisthing for telling an anecdote related to the thing in question, because it wasn't STRICTLY about identifying what the thing was. "Which community is this, what are the norms, what is the expected format etc" is not as much of a concern here. Lemmy communities aren't art projects.

No one here is important or official. There are no video game community managers or anything like that here. Lemmy is not used for interacting with anyone other than fellow idle nerds.

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