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I didn't mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. "Everything's lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time") type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I've heard from women irl a lot.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 172 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I wouldn't say I love murdering, but it is a neat little hobby to pass the time.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 84 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just one little murder... As a treat.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Luigi: “Treat yoself!”

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not murder, it's defense of innocents

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 20 points 1 week ago

I've earnt it this week!

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 158 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I blame women.

For not murdering enough. The streets would be safer if men had the same fear.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I mean, most women probably have experience with cleaning up blood.

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[–] Moc@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I blame women.

😡🍴

For not murdering enough

😮‍💨👍

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[–] gift_of_gab@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I blame women.

For not murdering enough. The streets would be safer if men had the same fear.

Delilah Bon agrees.

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 115 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This also depends on what kind of roads you have to walk on - highways suck for nighttime walks, because not only are you constantly on edge to try not to get run over, you also need to walk for miles to get anywhere.

Suburbs are nicer, but the best is to walk in a park, but that raises your chances of getting murdered by a lot so idk

I don't know where I was going with this. I lost my train of thought.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Easy solution: bring a bear. Much less chance of being murdered, and the bear gets to shit in the woods. Well, park, but close enough.

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Instructions unclear, hid roadkill bear in Central Park

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My suburb neighborhood is filled with walkers and it is super unsafe at night. They decided when they built it that they didn't want to to create and maintain sidewalks and street lamps, so people always walk in the road and the only lights are the lamp posts at the end of people's driveways. And almost nobody wears reflectives, or carries lights or anything on their person. Particularly when you're blinded by an oncoming car's lights, it's nearly impossible to see people until you're right up on them.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's so stupid and shortsighted. Living environments are not just the inside of our homes - it includes the outside, the neighbourhood, and the options you have to travel in and out of there. All of this together decide your quality of life inside your home.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 week ago (19 children)

My god, I am a cis male and I don't feel threatened or targeted by this. I think there's a reason why certain men feel attacked.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I should have expected to see a bunch of whining when I opened the thread.

I'm also cis male and I am worried about strange men coming near me at night when no one is around. Because, you know, muggers and shit. They murder sometimes too. Does that make you whiny little bitches' hurt feelings go away?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

My brother is a cis male too, he was assaulted and robbed, by two males (at least seemingly so, can't exactly say what they identify as 6 years later).

Just a bunch of males who only complain about the statistics of men being harmed when women talk about systemtic sexism. They'd probably also loudly claim that white people are victims of racism too when a black people talks about being harassed by cops.

Fucking hate Reddit 2.0 for this shit.

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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (26 children)

What and guys aren't worried about being murdered by other dudes at night? Lol

https://www.victimsweek.gc.ca/res/r512.html#%3A%7E%3Atext=In+that+year%2C+men+were%2Ca+weapon+used+against+them.&text=Young+men+under+the+age%2C-corporate+area)%20than%20women.

Statistically men are more likely to be attacked, robbed, sexually assaulted (in a public institution) and shot than women.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/#%3A%7E%3Atext=In+2023%2C+the+FBI+reported%2Cfemale+in+the+United+States.

Men are more likely to be murdered in general.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/

Violent crimes happen to men more than women on average.

I am a HUGE advocate for women staying safe. I think more women need to purchase and properly learn how to use a personal high speed lead slinging device.

HOWEVER I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims. Statistically they aren't more frequently attacked or murdered. In fact they are slightly less likely to be victims. Bad people are gonna do bad things and everyone should learn to protect themselves against those bad people.

DOUBLE HOWEVER Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.

http://www.statista.com/chart/amp/33058/victims-and-perpetrators-of-reported-violent-crime-in-the-us-by-reported-sex/

At the end of the day everyone should stay safe. Keep your head on a swivel. Obtain and learn how to use a personal defense tool. Be smart.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I wonder if the murder rates are skewed by organized crime/gangs. That has a male skewed gender ratio and high murder rates.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims.

who said this?

honest query. I don't see it in OP's statement. You do corroborate their premise -

Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.

so why the strawman argument at the start?

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[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Gross to me that multiple comments here are ignoring this reality. Crimes committed by men against women in situations like that are so common that women aren't protecting themselves unless they consider every unfamiliar man a potential threat.

Obviously women can also commit crimes against men, but its so much less common that I don't have to take precautions to protect myself against them.

As a man it kind of sucks when you are assumed to be dangerous even when you aren't, but you need to get over it. Its not worth it for women to compromise their safety, and assume you to not be a threat just to make you feel better.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Obviously women can also commit crimes against men, but its so much less common that I don't have to take precautions to protect myself against them.

Yeah, I've never had second-thoughts about walking past some dangerous-looking women or checking over my shoulder to make sure some woman isn't following me home. This is a regular thing that women deal with, and pretending that the experiences are anywhere close to equivalent is odd.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't live in a very dangerous area, then.

I keep an eye on everyone, even a woman with a kid in a pram (assuming the pram isn't just an empty decoy) could try to mug you, people get desperate and chavs get violent. Always keep your head on a swivel, don't trust anyone at face value just because of their gender or what they look like.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

Crimes committed by random strangers against women are practically non-existent. Women absolutely need to fear their creepy neighbors or angry ex, as people they know are the actual risks.

[–] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org 36 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Is it really common though? Looking at the generalized US stats its seems that 95%+ of women murdered are by a person they know. Where as for men that stat is 78%. Its pretty rare to get murdered let alone murdered outside on the street. Most* people fear strangers because of news events not because of likelihood.

Random murders just aren't common and random women murders are even less common. Even rape and sexual assault the stats of random attacks on the street are very low. https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend

This is for the US, I'd expect it to be far lower for most other countries.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Random woman: I like late night walks, but I'm scared for my safety.

This thread for some reason: YOU DON'T THINK MEN GET SCARED? MURDERED!?

Like, chill. Yes, men can absolutely be murdered/hurt walking alone. But are we really going to sit here and act like women are making up their concerns/grievances out of spite? For some reason, if anyone mentions a general concern/issue related to women's experiences with men, some people trip over themselves to say how it's actually not an issue and how it's actually so much worse for men. If I'm listening to a male DV victim and I go, "well, actually, women are more likely to be victims of DV. You know, it's actually not even an issue for you. Here, look at these numbers that prove that women are the victims. Do you not mention it because you hate women? Why are you trying to ruin our spotless reputation as delicate flowers that can do no wrong with your lies", you would think I was nuts, and for good reason.

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[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago (27 children)

lemmy.world mods finding out that they've cultivated a community of reddit incels:

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[–] Sniatch@feddit.org 35 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Reading the comments make me feel like I'm reading 4chan. How are people getting triggered by that post

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[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you see something like this and get angry at women, you have a problem.

At best it's a problem with reading comprehension. At worst, you're worried that things like this could get in the way of your murdering-women hobby.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (11 children)

My problem with this post is exactly the same I have with any broad assumptions over a poorly defined group: taken as fact, they're false.

Of course it's meant to make a point, and a very valid one. But I'll point out that there are many places in the world where a young woman can go out for a walk at night without fear of never being seen again, and it's not because there's fewer men, so perhaps we should focus on the conditions to achieve this?

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

A healthy take that will surely result in good faith discussion.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Ah, misandry, my old friend.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Ajel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Come to Finland, safe to walk at night

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[–] Surp@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Although statistically, it should be males being afraid to walk home at night.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/

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