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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Remember how every accusation was a confession.

Remember how they wouldn't shut the fuck up about voter fraud, illegals voting, machine tampering.

Notice that suddenly all those problems went away.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I was wondering about this after the last election. The democrats seemed awfully confident there was no fraud... But this is a pretty damning admission.

[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it's DARVO (deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also known as "doing an Israel"

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

or "doing a US health insurance"

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

No it's not, you asshole. If anyone attacks anyone, it's you. We're all tired of being accused of this shit by people like you.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It will be really funny a couple of years from now when the dementia gets really obvious and everyone keeps pretending the emperor has clothes on and isn't rubbing shit on the German PM's face.

Then the worst people on the planet will talk about what an alpha chad move that was.

[–] krippix@feddit.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Prime Minister

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is he implying there was election interference? Because that's what it sounds like to me

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Of course he is, and there was. There's a reason bullet ballots were orders of magnitude higher than the previous elections, but only in swing states.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Election interference would conservatively require thousands of people working together in secret. It us extremely unlikely Trump was able to cheat like this.

Trump won because stupid people believed he could or would bring down prices and voted for him more than they voted for Harris.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's for this reason voting machines are a bad idea.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

All / most conspiracies would require that. And if you have like a 10 person friend group, you know that people aren't capable of keeping secrets like that. There's a reason why there were the "loose lips sink ships" posters.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There’s a reason why there were the “loose lips sink ships” posters.

Yeah, the Department of Defense has to hold regular “know your number” meetings, to remind old shits with security clearance that if a hot woman is flirting with you, she’s 100% a spy. Basically, they have to be super blunt and tell all the horny dudes “you’re a fucking 2 out of 10, maybe a 3.5 at best. You look like a potato that is a little too old, and you smell like wet beef and cigarette smoke. If you’re at the bar after work and an early-20’s dime is flirting with you, it’s because she wants something besides sex. Know your number, because the fact that the 10 is even within arms reach should throw up all kinds of red flags.”

And they have to do this specifically because the “send in a hot woman to get him drunk, then act really interested when he says he works for the DoD” strategy is so incredibly effective.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You can do some grand conspiracies as my grandfather knew it was odd that the DoD in WWII wouldn't let him talk about the math he was doing but he figured there had to be some reason (the Manhattan Project) but didn't know what it was for.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

A month ago or there abouts, someone posted the statistical breakdown of voting in the last election to Reddit. In the swing states (only the swing states) there was a larger than normal number of ballots where the only thing voted on was the presidential election (Ie not senate or local things). He proposed that Elon had used data from his lottery to select people who he thought were in it for the money and wouldn't actually vote and voted on their behalf. He made quite a compelling argument.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Its R/somethingiswrong2024

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

I recall seeing something similar to that but never being able to find anything vetted on it.

Id hate to sound like an election conspiracy theorist but there was a lot of conversation around star link and it being used for the voting machines. Another thing I personally was never able to confirm.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I remember reading about that too, but it seems kind of contrived for two reasons.

First of all, we all know it's very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.

Second, the scheme described would fall apart completely with even a SINGLE recount in ONE swing state. Even just a county wide recount would make the whole house of cards fall apart.

The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.

Edit: also the explanation for the hack is that a number of machines were captured and reverse engineered, then replaced only after a wide hack was figured out. If the machine and software are built remotely intelligently, that shouldn't matter at all. You're telling me that a state of the art voting machine, built for maximum security and audit power, isn't built with that in mind? It's possible but very unlikely.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would agree that it seems unlikely, you know, if he didn't admit it publicly.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What he is saying there really isn't an admission of voter fraud

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[–] CurlyChopz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

On one hand, I don't think Elon could actually "hack" a voting machine.

On the other, he did basically just pay people to vote for ~~him~~ trump, so maybe he had other, more heavy handed methods...

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you not been paying attention to this career? Elon Musk doesn't actually do anything but stuff still happens.

Maybe he hacked the machines in the same way he grinded PoE2

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Elon is an awesome hacker, he just did an RPC call using visual basic on the mainframe to hack the GUI and get through all 3 firewalls

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I heard he reverse engineered the DNS and published a git lull which resulted in a total NVME DDOS of the computational cores.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I just put my Rockwell Encabulator in full bridge mode, and then any AES signal can be rectified bi-directionally in realtime with seamless TLS packet substitution.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well that's cause for investigation of at least the Pennsylvania vote, right?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

We can investigate all we want but Trump isn't getting punished. Neither is Musk.

We will coronate our first king today.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

Musk knows heil Hitler better than anyone, he's been demoing it already

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If there was interference Elon hired someone to do it. That man is an idiot and there's no way he engineered it. If there's interference then there are multiple parties who are aware and the more people you have who know the higher the chance for someone to leak the truth. Fingers crossed?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I doubt there was actual vote-rigging on any serious scale. But it's hilarious that Trump's syphilis-riddled brain thinks that's why he won.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 7 months ago

So Musk was involved in something to do with the voting machines?

Hmm…

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I loved it when my english teacher gave us a paper to read and it was about how the us couldnt turn into a dictatorship because of "checks and balances". It compared the us to hungary which is funny because in hungary orbán had to be elected before he could change the constitution while trump changed it before he was even elected 💀(i know technically its a reinterpretation but basically the same).

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago

I remember someone pointing out that the American constitution was the basis for a lot of other countries that were founded in the 1800s following the Enlightenment.

They all fell into a dictatorship.

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I dont know if this is true but the rumor is the data resembles vote switch that putin does with machines

https://youtu.be/QDWwLDejg8Y?si=y_ckplWhEzun8nvq

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Poor Barron - I thought he was the best with the cyber.

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And this is the guy we pick to run the country...

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

The issue isn't that musk could have interfered, the issue is that Trump thinks he did and is happy about the possibility that he did.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

is this a veiled threat? lol

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 1 points 7 months ago

It's not a threat, it's an admission of guilt.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks to everyone who called me a lunatic for suggesting this might have been rigged through ballot stuffing

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

Americans, especially liberals, have a phobia of calling out mass cheating by authority figures.

It’s like they need law and order so much, they are willing to ignore what is obvious. When a subject is taboo it’s not talked about , not dismissed, not encouraged

If exit polls don’t work in your state, and there is no physical ballot counting. And when tests on precinct numbers show strong suggestion of altering votes and the democrats always always underperform, it’s obviously a new phenomena, totally ok. Let’s just stop predicting elections early based on exit polls!

One such test post election for any state:

Arrange all precincts in the state by population and see if there a curve on the more people there are there, the more percentage of votes a particular candidate gets: if it’s only that candidate and it’s a smooth curve upwards that’s unnatural: California has no such correlation but some other states fail.

One should see a random looking up or down plot, or a straight line, or sorta straight. Not a growth curve. That’s because common tactic world wide to alter computer votes is to ads the extra votes based on precinct size.

Usually each state has easy to get data this way to one’s own source if amusement and the dozens of others who are thinking this might be interesting. Occasionally someone publishes graphs of it to thunderous uncaring.

It’s not the only problem but it’s the easiest way for non computer people to understand there is more to this

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