Quick reminder that your local library probably does not follow those rules. Go hang out at your local library instead! Depending on location/country they might have a café too.
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And libraries are not just about books. This is a thread I made about the new library branch my wife oversaw the design of opening:
https://lemmy.world/post/21386043
The reason conservatives hate libraries is because everything in them is free. Many (like my wife's library system) do not even charge late fees anymore.
Many modern libraries also offer a ton of digital lending including ebooks, audiobooks and even streaming movies and TV.
My local library also offers a thermal camera rental! I've borrowed one several times, it's very useful!
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Just curious, but do they still have due dates if not late fees?
They do. But basically it triggers a series of nagging emails which eventually result in a final one saying that you either return the book or pay for the book if you wish to continue using library services. If I remember correctly, that takes about nine months. And they don't charge some outrageous price for the book either, they just charge what it would cost to replace it. They might not even do that because they might not actually want to replace it, but my wife has never actually told me that. I imagine that's the case though because they're constantly weeding out books that no one has taken a look at in 20 years in order to make room for new books.
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I love going to the library to panhandle and smoke. Librarians don't mind, I always leave them a good tip.
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But I can't talk about how cool my macbook is and the bootstrap code I just copy and pasted
You still can but the librarian might shush you.
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Support
Local
Coffee
Shops
thanks.
This, also BDS.
I did a support call for a local coffee shop about a decade ago.
They had a separate WiFi router for guests. When they got a squatter they unplugged the guest WiFi if when they wanted him out.
They were in a very high traffic area and had minimal seating.
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Targeting the growing homeless population. Don't let it confuse you for anything else.
Exactly. Fascism was here but all the billionaires are putting out their flags now.
Why would it possibly be on Starbucks to provide places for homeless people to hang out for hours. This should be a public function.
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It's a café though... Isn't this normal for a café?
Yeah. But now they don't have any advantages over other cafés. Except the fact that their coffees basically double as a rich snack I guess.
Sure, if you like burned coffee.
Just put ten parts milk in there with some sugar and you'll never know.
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Hanging out in Libraries is free! I've gone in just for the AC.
AC, read something, have a nice seat for a while.
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"Hey, look at us--we're the new public hangout, everyone's invited"
Expands into an empire dotting the entire country
"Sorry poors--paying customers only, please."
Embrace, extend, extinguish all over again 🎉
If I remember correctly, this policy was introduced after they got flack because some employee called the cops on a black person who was just hanging out inside the store.
Turns out money is more important to them than the appearance of inclusion surprised pikachu face
Embrace, extend, extinguish all over again
I do not think that means what you think it means.
Past: Person goes to Starbucks to hang out, ends up ordering coffee.
Present: Person isn't allowed to hang out in Starbucks, goes somewhere else.
Future: Starbucks backpedals in desperate attempt to win back customers.
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The best thing I've seen in a coffee shop was a "Please no laptops" sign.
Its ridiculous how everyone just goes and works in coffee shops all day.
I understand buying a coffee, and working while you enjoy it. But once you're done, and your work is saved gtfo.
We need more third spaces.
People are also desperately lonely and isolated. They hang out in coffee shops just to have other living humans around them- even if they're not actively interacting.
We are all alone, together.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Grind the rich into coffee?
I troubleshoot a VPN connection for a man who does his work from a Dunkin at least once a week. He doesn't even drink coffee or eat donuts. He just hangs out there and works until his VPN breaks.
Starbucks coffee isn't even good anyway. But without more coworking spaces or some other alternative people like me will occasionally be forced to work from one for one reason or another. In the towns around military bases especially you frequently see spouses of those who work on base in Starbucks doing their remote work since it's the only possible place they can work from if they were staying in a hotel the night before.
And so dies another 3rd Space
meh, this one can die.
[flat] No, wait, come back.
Starbucks seems intent on showing itself the door. Hopefully when they're done, better, smaller coffee shops with no shareholder obligations will take their place
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Well this gives me a good excuse to never go to Starbucks ever again (even though people shouldn’t be going to Starbucks anyway)
Most people near a Starbucks are near a better coffee shop or cafe that's independently owned.
Just put a CC reader on the bathroom door.
Good luck enforcing the "can't use the bathroom without purchase" policy in California.
Meh, the last time I've been in one was 2011. Too expensive for what it is, and plenty of other options in my city.
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So what I'm hearing is people need to start pissing and shitting on the building itself.
I can piss and shit on Starbucks management by not going there - all doing it for real does is force some underpaid barista to have to go clean shit up, and management learns nothing.
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My fiancee got a Starbucks gift card from work, so we stopped by the one nearest us. The drive-through wrapped all the way around the building, so we went inside. Inside, there was only one huge table, with only one spot with an electrical outlet, and the music and cafe atmosphere were so loud... I can't imagine anybody trying to bring a laptop and "work" there.
But if I did, I guess I'd buy a coffee? That seems fair. I definitely prefer my local library for remote working outside of the house, though.
It's been awhile since I went to a library, but are there places for taking remote meetings to avoid disturbing others?
Oftentimes, yes. Mine has a series of little rooms. They are often used by teens working on homework together.
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