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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 4 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) (1 children)

Seagate. The company that sold me an HDD which broke down two days after the warranty expired.

No thanks.
laughing in Western Digital HDD running for about 10 years now

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

I had the opposite experience. My Seagates have been running for over a decade now. The one time I went with Western Digital, both drives crapped out in a few years.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

Heck yeah.

Always a fan of more storage. Speed isn't everything!

[–] stebator@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Good. However, 2 x 16TB Seagate HDDs still cheaper, isn't it?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

30 to 32 platters. You can write a file on the edge and watch it as it speeds back to the future!

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 25 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Great, can't wait to afford one in 2050.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Fleebay? Yup, me too!

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Everybody taking shit about Seagate here. Meanwhile I've never had a hard drive die on me. Eventually the capacity just became too little to keep around and I got bigger ones.

Oldest I'm using right now is a decade old, Seagate. Actually, all the HDDs are Seagate. The SSDs are Samsung. Granted, my OS is on an SSD, as well as my most used things, so the HDDs don't actually get hit all that much.

I had 3 drives from seagate (including 1 enterprise) that died or got file-corruption issues when I gave up and switched to SSDs entirely...

[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah, same. I switched to seagate after 3 WD drives failed in less then 3 years. Never had problems since.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I've had a Samsung SSD die on me, I've had many WD drives die on me (also the last drive I've had die was a WD drive), I've had many Seagate drives die on me.

Buy enough drives, have them for a long enough time, and they will die.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Seagate had some bad luck with their 3TB drives about 15 years ago now if memory serves me correctly.

Since then Western Digital (the only other remaining HDD manufacturer) pulled some shenanigans with not correctly labeling different technologies in use on their NAS drives that directly impacted their practicality and performance in NAS applications (the performance issues were particularly agregious when used in a zfs pool)

So basically pick your poison. Hard to predict which of the duopoly will do something unworthy of trusting your data upon, so uh..check your backups I guess?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Had good impressions and experiences with Toshiba drives. Chugged along quiet nicely.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Ah I thought I had remembered their hard drive division being aquired but I was wrong! Per Wikipedia:

At least 218 companies have manufactured hard disk drives (HDDs) since 1956. Most of that industry has vanished through bankruptcy or mergers and acquisitions. None of the first several entrants (including IBM, who invented the HDD) continue in the industry today. Only three manufacturers have survived—Seagate, Toshiba and Western Digital

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That decade old one is 3TB. 😅

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, I have about 10 dead 3TB drives sitting around in my closet. I took the sacrifice so you don't have to :-)

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

at least you have a bunch of nice coasters and cool magnets now.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Thanks. 👍

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 146 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It never ceases to amaze me how far we can still take a piece of technology that was invented in the 50s.

That's like developing punch cards to the point where the holes are microscopic and can also store terabytes of data. It's almost Steampunk-y.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This isn't unique to computing.

Just about all of the products and technology we see are the results of generations of innovations and improvements.

Look at the automobile, for example. It's really shaped my view of the significance of new industries; we could be stuck with them for the rest of human history.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago

That's how most technology is:

  • combustion engines - early 1900s, earlier if you count steam engines
  • missiles - 13th century China, gunpowder was much earlier
  • wind energy - windmills appeared in the 9th century, potentially as early as the 4th

Almost everything we have today is due to incremental improvements from something much older.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Solid state is kinda like a microscopic punch card.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

More like microscopic fidget bubble poppers.

When the computer wants a bit to be a 1, it pops it down. When it wants it to be a 0, it pops it up.

If it were like a punch card, it couldn’t be rewritten as writing to it would permanently damage the disc. A CD-RW is basically a microscopic punch card though, because the laser actually burns away material to write the data to the CD.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

They work through electron tunneling through a semiconductor, so something does go through them like an old punch card reader

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Lmao the HDD in the first machine I built in the mid 90s was 1.2GB

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

I had a 20mb hard drive

I had a 1gb hard drive that weighed like 20 kgs, some 40 odd pounds

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

My dad had a 286 with a 40MB hard drive in it. When it spun up it sounded like a plane taking off. A few years later he had a 486 and got a 2gb Seagate hard drive. It was an unimaginable amount of space at the time.

The computer industry in the 90s (and presumably the 80s, I just don't remember it) we're wild. Hardware would be completely obsolete every other year.

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, cool and all, but call me when sata or m2 ssds are 10TB for $250, then we'll talk.

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (9 children)

Avoid these like the plague. I made the mistake of buying 2 16 TB Exos drives a couple years ago and have had to RMA them 3 times already.

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago

Their 3tb and 16 TB are super trash. I'm running 20tb and 24tb and they've been solid... So far

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I can't wait for datacenters to decommission these so I can actually afford an array of them on the second-hand market.

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

30/32 = 0.938

That’s less than a single terabyte. I have a microSD card bigger than that!

;)

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