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Hi everyone and welcome to the new Megathread :) For my first Mega I want to share a special interest of mine: the magnetic field and how to understand its behavior intuitively.

I'm guessing most of us have played with magnets before at some point and have felt that mysterious force pushing them apart or pulling them together, depending on how the magnets are oriented toward each other. Some of you may have also seen diagrams like this (By Geek3 - Own work,This file was derived from: Ironfilings cylindermagnet.svg This file was derived from: Magnet compasses.svg, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=88524982)

Or done an experiment where you visualize the magnetic field lines with iron filings like this (Public domain, Newton Henry Black, Harvey N. Davis (1913) Practical Physics, The MacMillan Co., USA, p. 242, fig. 200)

These lines represent the shape of the magnetic field. The way you can interpret them is that if you place a compass in the field, the compass will align with the field lines at that point. And the closer the lines are to each other, the stronger the magnetic field is in that area. Also, magnetic field lines always form closed loops. They appear to end at the poles of a magnet, but actually they continue on inside the magnet. They do however exit/enter the magnet at the poles.

"But Witchy," you may ask, "why are the lines so concentrated at the poles but then they spread out so much as they travel from one pole of the magnet to the other?" Excellent question my theoretical student XD.

This is I think the key point that was a bit of a eureka moment for me when I realized it a long time ago when I was studying this stuff: the magnetic field lines "want" to be as short as possible while also "wanting" to be as far apart as possible. And when I say want, it does actually behave a little bit like a desire, as the magnetic objects in this field will experience a magnetic force tryin gthe move the object to spread out the field lines and make them shorter.

Let's use this picture I grabbed from Wikipedia as an example: (By Geek3 - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10555891)

the bar magnet creates a strong magnetic field at the poles, which means lots of magnetic field lines are squeezed closely together at the poles where they enter/exit the magnet. These lines don't want to be so tightly packed together, so they immediately start spreading out but also immediately start curving towards the opposite pole to try to keep the distance short. If you then try to bring the north pole of another bar magnet close to the north pole of this one, both have magnetic field lines coming out trying to get to their respective south poles, but now even more tightly packed together as you bring the magnets together. Since the magnetic field lines don't want to be so close together, both magnets experience a force pushing each other away so that the magnetic field lines aren't being pushed together so tight.

Similarly, if the south pole of one bar magnet is brought near the north pole of another, the magnetic field lines exiting the north pole of one want to go to the south pole, but the closest south pole is the south pole of the other magnet being brought close, so now the lines go through both magnets before looping back around: (By Geek3 - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10515628)

However, between the closest poles of the two magnets, the lines are still concentrated but will try to spread out between the poles. Since the lines want to be as short as possible and don't want to spread out, the magnetic field exerts a force on the bar magnets pulling them together, since that would shorten the lines between the poles down to pretty much nothing.

Finally, a few of you may have been wondering what determines how much the magnetic field lines want to spread out vs shorten. These two tendencies are in opposition pretty much all the time, since spreading the lines out more requires making them longer. This is determined by something called the magnetic permeability which is a property of the materials that the field is passing through (even air or a vacuum). High permeability materials tend to concentrate the magnetic field lines more and allow them to get shorter, while low permeability materials tend to force the lines to spread out and lengthen. Examples of materials with high permeability are iron, cobalt, and other magnetic or ferromagnetic materials. Low permeability are pretty much anything that doesn't experience force in a magnetic field, so most things.

Post thumbnail attribution: (By Omegatron - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=640068)

Anyway I hope some of you enjoyed this rant or find the information here useful. I can talk about magnets all day so feel free to hit me up if you want, though my inbox will be overflowing for the next week I'm guessing.

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[โ€“] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

@yewler@hexbear.net from last thread

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I think best case scenario is I find someone I consider to be my best friend ever and then start living with them and we just keep being best friends who maybe also cuddle sometimes. That actually sounds like heaven. I'm just bad at meeting and talking to people

Ah, that does sound nice! I know QPR (queerplatnoic relationship) is like a pretty broad term but I'm sure there are loads of people out there that are into sex-free domestic arrangements. I think it's been helpful for me to remind myself to just try to make connections with people and sometimes things kinda just click and suddenly you're chatting every day.

I struggle to start things with people, I get too in my head about it and like convince myself that they don't like me even before I try to DM them, you know? It's really a weak spot because I love people, hanging out with them, learning about their stuff, doing things together, but I struggle to feel anything but imposing.

There's something preventing that from fully clicking in my noggin though, and I'm trying to place what that is.

I think I can kinda relate to this - I went around and around in my head trying to label relationship things and try to fit them into boxes for a very long time, until my therapist showed me a chart that had everything you may ever want from a relationship on it, and you're meant to fill it out with possibly someone in mind etc. completely atomized desires like "emotional intimacy" and "sharing a house" and even divided out sexual things. It was helpful to me to kind of pick my own desires and then decide what the labels mean to me after. I can send you the PDF if you'd like, let me know...

This may just be my asexuality showing, but it's genuinely news to me to find out that flirting even has a sexual component at all for most people lmao

Ah, totally fair... I think I may have just gotten my ace card revoked today, actually (I am joking, this is an inside joke). I still do think I'm demisexual/demiromantic though, but I have some interesting surprising feelings I'm working through recently in that regard too that I didn't expect.

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[โ€“] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I feel awful. I know it's because I didn't sleep well last night, but this isn't new. Just feeling it more today.

dysphoria, hatredI hate being male, I hate what T has done to me, I hate my voice, I hate how fucking huge I am, I hate how lonely I am, I hate that everyone is going to see me from here on out. I hate the way I exist now. I don't know how it's going to be okay again. I'm disgusting. I hate myself.

I was hoping to have an opportunity to get on hrt soon but looks like that won't pan out. Unfortunate. Whatever, probably a bad idea to start when I'm so dependent anyway. It doesn't feel like I'll ever pull myself out.

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[โ€“] Wmill@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Gaylights saving time very-smart

[โ€“] woodenghost@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the intuitive explanation of magnetic field lines, it's really cool! I also like this maybe less intuitive explanation of why the magnetic force even exists at all: it's just a relativistic effect. Relativity and the electric force acting on moving charges (contracted relative to stationary opposite charges) create an electro static effect that appears like a new force called the magnetic force.

Of course relativity works both ways and electricity can be understood as a variant of magnetism or both can be understood as a mixture of two forces and relativistic effects.

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