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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

GOP will bitch ofc... but really they just wanted another hillaries emails to fill empty spots in the news cycle so their bullshit would get overshadowed. Biden stopped that shit.

That said, where was this norm defying stuff the past 4 years?

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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 28 points 2 weeks ago

Good. Republicans don't play by the rules. Democrats shouldn't either.

P.S Biden is still a pussy for not having the entire supreme court thrown into jail for "national security" reasons.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans lie and cheat to advance their agenda, I'm glad Joe finally bent some rules to accomplish nothing for Americans.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

Implying republicans bend rules to accomplish something for Americans...

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

am I?

I'm saying they're accomplishing long term gains towards their objectives.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

The wording didn't reflect that so I was teasing. Should I have added a :P?

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, man. Great job putting my feelings into words.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 19 points 2 weeks ago

When no one plays by the rules anymore, and people on both sides accept that, your democracy is dead and buried.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Why is that onus is on the Democrats only? What did they achieve by taking the high road all this time?

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

What did this achieve? You're cheering for nothing.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

What did this achieve?

Peace for someone unfairly hounded?

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

Hot tip. Our democracy is already dead and buried.

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

The supreme court put Bush in office in 2000. Democracy has been dead and buried for decades. It's just theater at this point

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[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

I give Democrats zero credit for "not playing by the rules" when that means petty corruption like this instead of anything meaningful

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/presidential-pardons-explained

Tried to educate myself on what the pardon consists of (why?)...and found that there is no real separation between the executive branch and the judicial branch, because prosecution is up to the executive branch and the president can pardon whomever e.g.

For instance, George Washington pardoned participants in the Whisky Rebellion, in part because they enjoyed considerable popular support.

Meaning, you are above the law if you are popular enough: i.e. president, their friend, their agent or even just his rioter. Good thing the opposition to trump is popular too, right?

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

There's already historical precedent going back to Jackson that the president can blow off the Supreme Court and do whatever the fuck he wants. This is further backed up by the recent Supreme Court ruling saying that the president can do whatever the fuck he wants anyways with full immunity to the law while in office.

The office of the president has always been above the law, not that u.s law really means anything, and pretending there's rules and civil norms that stops the literal monster of the mountain from tormenting the world is delusional.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, except that Watergate happened and Nixon was shunned despite getting 60% of the vote and carrying 49 states, there was a time when even republicans didn't want a king.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

The new Presidency will absolutely spin and use this event.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

No need to spin. I think we can all agree that pardoning Hunter after saying for years that he wouldn't is bad.

I don't blame him because....fuck it, the system's broken anyway...but I'm not gonna pretend like I support it

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

They will spin it regardless:-P.

Not everyone seems to be agreeing that this is bad.

Yes the system is broken but the optics here look REALLY bad.

I liken it to what happened to the post office: first they shoot it in the leg, then blame it for being slow, then move to kill it off, citing how poor its performance is and thus deserving of blame and yeah sure "that" is why it must be killed off.

Now they have that much more support to kill off the DOJ - b/c despite how the President can do whatever he wants, now the previous President also did whatever he wants too (not really but again, optics, especially to those who will refuse to dig deeper into learning about something, even prior to showing up with a gun to help "defend democracy").

[-] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The way it looks looks bad?

Your country is fucked.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

To do the things they would have done anyway. This is what we chose for ourselves.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think he was going to do that regardless and come up with a bullshit excuse. Now he doesn't need a bullshit excuse and he's still going to do it. Big deal.

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[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ya, next thing you know they'll pardon Charles Kushner and make him ambasssador.

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[-] hono4kami@pawb.social 7 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

He'll do this, but this piece of shit won't stop the fucking genocide.

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