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according to computer security experts, the US presidential election was likely hacked via voting software.
The numbers Trump achieved are non-credible.
https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked
So there is evidence to justify a recount, but will that actually happen? What are the chances?
very little action needs to be taken by the people in those States to convince their secretary of State to do a manual recount, or people in other states to ask their secretary of State to pressure the soss in other states to do a recount.
legislation is often supported or not based on less than 100 people calling into their legislator's office, so the more people calling up their secretaries of state and election officials and demanding a recount, the better.
this is not a baseless accusation, there is hard evidence that Trump's lawyers had voting software, and a historical and statistical and probability that The voters that literally want Trump. the election are real or actually voted.
The likelihood is that those ballots are not there.
with this much actual evidence, there must be a recount.
you should demand it.
call or email your election officials. tell me your state and I'll tell you who to call or email.
I'm in Washington state.
get em, you're a legend.
Contact Info State Elections Division
Email elections@sos.wa.gov
Telephone (360) 902-4180 (800) 448-4881
Fax (360) 664-4619
Mail PO Box 40229 Olympia, WA 98504-0229
Just emailed the link you gave me. I've done what I can. At this time, anyway.
awesome, thank you, it does make a difference.
a manual recount seems in order and not a huge ask.
Democrats will roll over.
The sad thing - even if this were to be true, I bet nothing happens. Just look at Bush v. Gore. Even many so-called Democrats and so-called liberals pretend as if Bush won, that anyone bringing it up is just a sore loser and so on. More recently, we have the Russia and Comey thing when it comes to Hillary.
Even if we later have the smoking gun about this, I bet we still sustain damage from donvict and his buddies in the meantime, and people still act like it's NBD, even if true...
I mean the voting software stolen is undeniably true, since they admitted doing it themselves and there's evidence of Trump's lawyers hiring people to steal the voting software.
nothing might come of it, but I still talk about how W stole his election because his brother was the governor of florida and stopped ballot counting in that state, so if this election was stolen, we might as well have indisputable proof like we have of Florida in 2004.
Ya accidentally put California the first time instead of Florida, theres no way in hell California would elect a Bush mostly cause they are from out of state.
thank you, I was walking down the street and doing speech to text wildly gesticulating and didn't check after I talked, haha
Aight no problem.
Start by contacting the relevant people and demanding a manual recount.
If you can say that you actually tried, and still nothing happened, then you're allowed to wallow in despair.
But you don't get to just skip straight to the despair part without the doing everything you can part. Then the only source of your despair will be you.
Spoonamore is not a security expert. He’s an attention-seeker who is known for making news with unfounded claims and little else.
If you don't like that guy, you you can look to all the other security experts that are calling for a manual recount.
incidentally, spoonamore isn't known for making that claim every election, he's made it twice, The other time was in 2004 when ballot interference occurred.
Look I’d be happy with a recount. I think they should recount, just to be as sure as possible. What I’m not OK with are conspiracy theories and lies.
2004 when ballot interference occurred
I was there in 2004. Lots of conspiracy theories were pumped on the blogs that were ultimately unfounded. If I recall, Stephen’s “expert claim” pertained to Ohio and that claim was spurious.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_election_voting_controversies
The steal in Florida was real but it came in the form of a phone call, not a software exploit.
these are the facts Jack, and facts don't care if you don't like them.
also, conspiracy does not equal untrue.
a conspiracy is a group of people planning to carry out or carrying out a scheme.
that happens in the real world everyday.
it's fine if you don't like that one guy, ignore that one guy.
Focus on all of the other computer security experts stating that because of trumps lawyers admitting they hired a group to steal voting machine software, and their stated intention to interfere with the election, we should do a manual count to make sure that all the ballots are legitimate.
you can ignore that one guy and listen to all the other scientists you don't have a problem, who you claim to agree with, with who have 19 credible sources supporting the electoral obligation for a manual ballot count.
Trump should google Caesar. I don't mean the normal "How far Lil Caesar from Trump?" or "Trump own Ceasar Hotel?" or "Why smart man say me eat no Caesar?"
Surrounding yourself around the corrupt lead to dangrous games. Caesar found to late.
He was definitely a corrupt war criminal, like any president, but Caesar was murdered because of his radical approach to helping the populare at the detriment of the oligarchy. I don't think Trump has that to worry about
No, but heavy is the head. He will try to break his leash and the people around will look for more power. "For the love of money is the root of all evil."
He's left behind even the pretense of having people who know things in office. Now it's just bootlickers who have been on TV, and the occasional particularly toadycore politician.
Yup. He knows how to sell shit to gullible rubes. He's a dumb fuck otherwise, but the man has an uncanny genius when it comes to self promotion.
"1880 was also a general election year in the UK, another country known for its contributions to the English language."
Hilarious
I wasn't aware of any of this, I swear:
He had to pick these guys. He tried to put the others in jail or in the ground, so they don't want to play with him. He's assembled the best team he has available to him, and I'm just curious who is really making the selections here. I'd lay even money it's the friendovich but we'll never know.
But trust him: he could not do any better than these guys.
I saw an article that called it a "Broligarchy" and that seemed to fit more than anything else.
KKKakistocracy
They’re both a kakistocracy and a kekistocracy
...and a kleptocracy.
Oh look - 3 "K"'s