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[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 45 points 4 weeks ago

IDK I think it's important to acknowledge a lot of these types of movies also significantly glamorize the protagonist. It's not typical that the film is 100% critical of the character and dumdums just completely misunderstand it, usually they're also given cool lines, cool music underscores their actions, cool aesthetics, they're shot in flattering ways, played by beautiful movie stars, etc.

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 30 points 4 weeks ago

definitely worth mentioning. fight club succumbs to this to the point of just being really bad satire. you gotta think if that many people missed the point it might be a problem with the nature of the work. still love american psycho though.

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly just the music probably makes all the difference. Is the protagonist walking down the hall getting upbeat 80s music? They're doing a cool thing, positive vibes. Some unsettling music, or unexpected silence? Uh-oh, this is bad. What a bsd guy.

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 23 points 4 weeks ago

nightcrawler was a fun example of a creepy guy doing creepy stuff creepily while upbeat inspirational music plays. almost feels like a parody of both this type of movie guy as well as bootstraps type movies

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 41 points 4 weeks ago
[-] burgermeister@lemm.ee 26 points 4 weeks ago

"I told them it was just Batman, not THE Batman. What am I going to do with 5000 of these?"

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 33 points 4 weeks ago

The tragedy of these movies is they are so good at reflecting back a critique of your existing social condition, a person can mistake that reflection as the only interpretation. I'll add The Matrix to this list too.

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago

And miss the idea that it's critiquing at all.

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago

Zizek moment

[-] 2812481591@hexbear.net 31 points 4 weeks ago

ummmm, he's literally the protagonist of the film which means he's the good guy. Like, hol'up isn't the point of every movie that the protagonist is a cool person, and the audience should act exactly like them to be cool too?

[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 4 weeks ago

villain protagonists? what's that? 🤓

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 28 points 4 weeks ago

Man, Starship Troopers is so cool! I want to be a Citizen!

[-] xXShadowXx@hexbear.net 27 points 4 weeks ago

What does 'deterritorialise' mean?

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 25 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Since no one gave the serious answer yet: term used by philosophers Deleuze and Guattari

In critical theory, deterritorialization is the process by which a social relation, called a territory, has its current organization and context altered, mutated or destroyed.

In the meme it's how the characters in these sorts of stories have become so alienated by capital that they need to resort to extreme violence to change their social relations (usually in a self-destructive way, because revolution is precluded by the material conditions in the imperial core in these narratives).

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

It means to stop being a tortoise; hence, detortoise

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

now let's see paul allen's accidental propaganda play

[-] griefstricken@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 weeks ago

The one thing Adornoid theories are good for: yapping about movies

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 20 points 4 weeks ago
[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

And this is why i read books instead of watching movies.

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago
[-] r3dw4re@hexbear.net 1 points 4 weeks ago

Frfr, books are awesome.

I don't read books that often, but I recently picked up book about quitting smoking that I saw mentioned by some guy on lemmy. I read it through in 11 hours straight no sleep and the effect was immediate, I quit smoking lmao. Idk what magic was that but now I fucking love books 🤩

[-] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 11 points 4 weeks ago

Satire is popular under capitalism because it reinforces the system. The idea that we need to abstract our critiques instead of making them explicit serves no one but the ruling class.

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