Republicans consider a "joke" to mean what they retroactively designate something that they meant in earnest as soon as they get pushback.
It reminds me of this clip. I love his reaction
"The things we said we're gonna do? We're doing them."
:O
Trump was already facing multiple criminal and civil suits in 2016. They had 8+ years to hold him accountable for even a single thing, and didn't.
Yeah this is an important point. If the system lets guys like Trump get away with obvious crimes for 8 years, and that's when it's working as intended, then the system needs to be dismantled. Maybe the only way to drain the swamp is to let it turn into a sinkhole that drags everything down with it. Not that we have much choice in the matter at this point.
“No one in their right mind is backing 2025…”
Then why did YOU?!
"It's just a joke"
Is the punchline "we're all fucked"?
Trump will be just fine, and they're all trump in their minds.
I'd like to start a new response of "I don't care if you're joking, you're still an asshole".
"He's probably just joking" is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don't know how this is a hard thing to understand.
For people who apparently joke so much they sure as shit ain't funny
Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.
Trump says 'I don't kid' after aides argue he was joking about slowing coronavirus testing.
Also, why the fuck is it cool for a politician to joke about doing shit? Literally any joke is not cool.
I used to have a boss who like to joke about firing people on his team. He was a nice guy and there was no ill intention behind the jokes, but we eventually had to sit him down and tell him that he couldn't joke about that stuff because it causes a great deal of stress to people given his position.
Another example is bomb jokes in airports. Aside from just being in poor taste, that's something that will get you arrested and probably put on a no-fly list for life because it's an extremely serious matter with no exceptions.
So, even if Trump and his people are just joking about these horrible things, it's completely unacceptable when it's entirely believable they would do this stuff and would be in a position to make it happen.
TLDR: There are just some things you don't fucking joke about.
"I don't like it when you show me what I'm supporting"
They've lied so much and gaslit so much that people don't know what to believe anymore.
And with all the AI and Russian troll farm bullshit being posted on social media, it's just poisoning the truth. It's time to ditch Twitter, Facebook and company.
I keep telling my folks that and that they'll end up being influenced and manipulated but they refuse because of how convenient it is. And I almost have to keep it because that's the only way they communicate right now.
Conservatives: I like [insert obnoxious conservative figurehead] because they tell it like it is, they mean what they say
Also conservatives, sometimes in the same breath: Fake! [obnoxious conservative figurehead] didn't mean that! Taken out of context! 'Tis but a jape!
Jesus fuck the reality distortion field is strong, it's like doublethink but without being a clever social trick to survive, it's just they're that stupid.
bullies always start out "joking"
Worried about making white people uncomfortable is how we got here in this first place.
I listened to many interviews with people convinced that Trump wouldn't do the things he said he would do. They definitely won't acknowledge the things he said he won't do.
This is why America deserves everything it voted for this time around.
Yeah, except only a minority of the population voted for this. It'd be great if only they bore the fruits of their stupid labors.
A lot of people are going to suffer who didn't vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.
The time for being reasonable and trying to convince willfully ignorant fucks is long past. You tell them they are a fucking fool. You block them on all communication channels. You never talk to them again. Trying to reason with an idiot is a waste of time. If anything you feed their thought process they are right by debating. They should all be ignored. They should all be cut off from their loved ones and friends.
As much as I want to agree with you, I don't find this to be the best way. There are people who are going to be lost causes, but we owe it to ourselves and the people we care about to try getting them back to reason. We all do dumb shit all our lives, we can't give up on people there's too much hate already.
There are some Trump supporters in my family and I was able to get through to one of my uncles. He used to be chill, smoke, and be in a jam band. No idea how someone so laid back can all the sudden have a whole room full of Trump memorabilia and repeating such hateful rhetoric.
It was so damn hard. Talked for hours, had to keep repeating things like 'please, I love you, why would I lie to you'. I had to open up more than I ever had to anyone. He tried leave and ignore me sometimes, but I really put myself in it. I really listened to him and why he went so hard into Trump. Argued about policies and everything under the sun. But I feel like I got my uncle back now, like REALLY got him back. It hasn't felt like this since before COVID.
I know this is probably cheesy but Under Pressure by Queen and David Bowie is what got me to start reaching out and I'm going to keep trying with others in my life
Shut them down, but leave them a route out.
It's a cult, one of the goals is to trap people within them. The worst thing we can do is shove people back into that box, once they try and escape. It might be satisfying, but it's also extremely counterproductive.
If America wants to actually win, you either need to outlive, or deconvert the members. The first will take generations, I presume you don't want to have to wait that long?
The Narcissist's Prayer
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
Like the citizens of Weimar (near concentration camp Buchenwald) said in april 1945: wir haben es nicht gewusst
My parents contantly regurgitates propaganda from wechat about how democrats in NYC are letting homess people and migrants ruin everything.
We dont even live in NYC.
I told her to vote Harris and she did (she didn't even know how to fill out a ballot I had to tell her how to) but then later she said "maybe we shouldn't vote for democrats" because of the homeless shelters built near Chinese populations in NYC (which is a fair grivence, but I dont see how republicans are gonna solve it better). Abosolutely no independent thought and no critical thinking just parroting whatever the last person said.
She doesn't understand that the "homeless" or "migrants" are just dogwhistles referring to people like us who maga republicans deem inferior.
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