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Some lib shit, but surprisingly good take for being published in the Guardian.

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[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

Israel is an illegitimate settler colony that never should have been ceded UN recognition

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

that never should have been ceded UN recognition

Just a slight addendum: never should have been ceded UN recognition without the Palestinians getting to weigh in

Insane that the UN just got to unilaterally give away land that had people living on it.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Average Western rules based order yea

[-] i_c_b_m@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

The UN was built to rinse the blood from the hands of imperialism, not to stop it.

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago

Israel is a rogue nation. It should be removed from ~~the United~~ Nations

[-] asante@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

It should be removed

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago

At this point the un should disband and form un 2 without America.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

cereal1 If the UN is so good, why isn't there a UN 2?

cereal2

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

They did, they're calling it BRICS but this time they're starting from the opposite end in regards to membership. I have more hope for this one.

(I'm being a smart aleck; I know BRICS isn't akin to the UN)

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Far from unrealistic imo, that might happen at some point in the century

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 48 points 1 day ago

Over 220 UNRWA workers killed the highest in UN history. At this point what else do you say

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago

This happened to South Africa before it was ended too.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The way Israel has behaved in the last year, they've cemented that they can never become like South Africa; even if a ceasefire is declared and apartheid ended, how do you tell people who've just survived a horrific genocide to just go on and live with the people who were just cheering for them and their children to be turned into unrecognizable gore?

Even if white South Africans had felt the same way about black South Africans that Israelis do about Palestinians, they hadn't yet crossed the threshold into literal holocaust; the plausible deniability that the white South Africans would never have done so makes it easy for bygones to be bygones; Israel has crossed that threshold and the illusion that they never would have conducted a genocide no longer exists.

A one state solution even on October 6th, despite the atrocities of the preceding decades, would have been easy to do and would have been welcomed by the Palestinian people, now that's literally impossible, and Israel will never accept a true two state solution that would allow a Palestinian state to legally have its own army and be able to arm themselves into becoming a formidable force.

Saying all this, it makes me realize how awesome the DPRK is because I do truly believe that if America genuinely approached North Korea with the intent of peaceful coexistence and to put the past behind, I do believe the DPRK would embrace it (of course this requires evidence that it's not being done in bad faith; they would be dealing with the US government); the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba and even Iran to be honest.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 2 points 12 hours ago

I don't think this is true. I think the majority of the actually evil people in Israel are either going to die fighting in the war as it escalates or run back to the US and Europe out of fear.

What I think will remain will be a populace that just wants to live.

The remainder that do not die fighting or run will be imprisoned for crimes against humanity and tried for the genocide they've committed. Most that know this will run.

[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

north korea has explictly stated it no longer seeks reuinification with the south, i think north korea is the last country now that would ever believe in the so called good intensions of the US

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Even if South Africans had felt the same way about black people that Israelis do about Palestinians

You should rephrase this comment

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks, I re-read that sentence multiple times and kept getting the feeling I really need to rephrase it even if I didn't intend it the way it was written. I should've rephrased it the moment I re-read it.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Israel is a rogue nation. It should be removed from ~~the United Nations~~ existence

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

How is the United States or the UK not a rouge state and still a member of UN?

Pisssrael can not do it's shit without the United States and their exceptions and flaunting of law.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

the hegemon can't really be rogue

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