But Pennywise is pro-Genocide. (hexbear.net)

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Letters to the Editor: Your 'protest vote' for Jill Stein is really a vote for Donald Trump : politics

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All the things you want is only possible with a Harris win. You want a better political system and stuff like ranked choice voting or viable third parties? Only happens with the Democrats in control. Nothing that you want will EVER happen with Republicans in control and a vote for a third party in this election does nothing but help Republicans.

If you're refusing to hold your nose and vote Harris because of some bs reason like 'she hasn't earned my vote' when the alternative is a demented fascist that supports stuff like monitoring womens' periods then you deserve all the vote shaming you get.

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago

If you're refusing to hold your nose and vote Harris because of some bs reason like 'she hasn't earned my vote'

Some bs reason like entire residential blocks in Beirut being reduced to ashes to kill 1 hero? Or the 200,000+ dead before that?

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Not voting for genocide. Simple as.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

How DARE you expect somebody to EARN your vote? You are obligated to vote for her.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

I always bring this up and they call me a single issue voter.

[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Easy retort, every person who was murdered is their own separate issue. Hell, make it easy for the libs: every group of 100 people who were murdered becomes their own separate issue.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Thanks I'll use that one

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago

Projection levels off the charts with how libs go back to brunch between presidential elections

[-] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

maybe-later-kiddo 🍷clink! 🍷 maybe-later-honey

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

Explaining the third party vote to an american: imagine the joker

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

joker-che

[-] Thallo@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

Vote Green? Vote for Trump.

Vote PSL? Vote for Trump.

Vote for Stalin? Vote for Trump?

Vote for Kamala? That's right, vote for Trump

[-] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Vote for Kamala? That's right, vote for Trump

they told us that already when they said ONLY JOE BIDEN can beat trump. Any other vote is a vote for trump, vote biden in november

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Laughing at them complaining about purity tests from the left when they pull this

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

sorry your compromised party couldn't find a way to select a candidate that can guarantee victory. I guess those opaque, backroom deals by all those clever adults who know so much more than us foolish children weren't so clever hmmmmmm.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 month ago

I'm voting for Joe Biden. A vote for any other candidate is a vote for Trump

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Do libs ever wonder how come the default outcome of their “democratic” process is fascism?

Edited to make it clear I’m not addressing op specifically

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I think it's meant as a joke since Biden isn't running anymore.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

So many people just analyzing shit off vibes and trying to convince themselves they are superior for being blue maga. Goddamn.

[-] hexinvictus@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

apparently killing too many children in the middle East is a bs reason for not voting for a candidate

[-] axont@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Causing chaos is when you run for an election and you're not a democrat

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

I'm voting Jevil 2024

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Let’s say candidate one said “if I win I’ll kill 3 babies,” and candidate two said “if I win I’ll only kill 1 baby”. Then you cast a protest vote for candidate three because “they’re both bad.”

The problem is, that means you were willing to risk the deaths of 2 extra babies to prove your point, which means you’re actually a worse person than candidate two.

More will suffer with Trump in charge. So voting third party is just you using others’ pain to prove your own point.

They're doing the murdering babies analogy unprompted now.

Link to comment just in case you think I'm making it up.

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Plot twist: candidate two ends up killing 3 babies anyway once they get elected, and everyone who voted for them is dead silent once this happens.

[-] KimJongGoku@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

And next election candidate 1 says they'll kill 10 babies while candidate 2 says they'll stick to a reasonable 3 babies, because that's the new standard now and there is no incentive to make things any better blob-no-thoughts

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

They're doing the murdering babies analogy unprompted now.

My first thought was "Holy mother of fuck!" But then I realized such "logic" has surely been floating around the net since early in the genocide in Gaza. The libs needed to create what they considered to be a moral case for voting for Biden and sometimes "Trump would be worse" wasn't strong enough. They had to hammer the point home.

I wonder if some libs use the "kill 1 baby" argument in real life.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 month ago

They literally don't understand basic logic and lack anything resembling morality.

If you vote for the person killing any number of babies you still voted to kill babies.

The only moral answer here is to choose neither. Or, I guess people are voting third party to message their refusal. Same thing ultimately.

Democrats aren't going to "learn a lesson" btw. They didn't "learn" from Obama's hard right wing turn post 2008 victory, or 2016/2020 fucking the popular candidate (Bernie). They didn't learn from Bill Clinton or Carter being sacks of shit that just perpetuated and actually increased the evil of the system.

There's nothing for them to learn. There have never been two candidates in my memory who were more alike in policy than Kamala and Trump. Sure, Trump is mean, orange, annoying guy. Who cares. Their policies are all basically the same. Something Trump himself keeps pointing out.

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

The underlying assumption that millions of other people will of course be voting for some amount of baby murder

But of course the ones to blame are the tiny minority who don't, somehow

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[-] hypercracker@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

I've been seeing a lot of comments from libs with the exact phrase "hold your nose" lately, I'm not a politics messaging expert but you'd think maybe you wouldn't want to portray your chosen candidate as being total shit?

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

That phrase has most likely been doing the rounds on articles and now they're just repeating what they read.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

you wouldn't want to portray your chosen candidate as being total shit?

But they want, actually. If Democrats promised something tangible, they would have to deliver it or look like lying shit. If they promise nothing, they wouldn't have to do anything.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 month ago

That requires effort though

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

It's because "hold your nose" is a phrase used by "the people who make the hard decisions to get things done" and there's nothing the milquetoast liberal partisan loves feeling more than like they're one of "the people who make the hard decisions to get things done" except maybe being "in the room where it happens".

Never to have the blood and dirt on their own hands, though; that's for the poors, the browns, and the other assorted 'illegals' they glance down their noses at when they pass.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

I ain't voting for ~~genocide joe~~ kill em all harris

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Holocaust Harris

[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

“All you want is there for the taking under a Zachary Taylor presidency! You want a better political system, only gonna happen under the whigs. Nothing you want will ever happen under Jacksonian Democrat control and voting for the third party’s that are actually anti slavery will just give the Jacksonian Democrats what they want.

If you are holding your nose to not vote for Zachary Taylor, when the alternative is insane slavery expansionist James K Polk that supports things like taking over Texas to give the slave states more senators, than you deserve to be vote shamed.

What I like for my president is a person who compromises so hard and so good that it feels like I’m losing.”

an American rad lib 1849

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Democrats: "We're defending democracy!"

Democrats when democracy doesn't favor them 100% of the time and people don't literally have to vote for them:

"If you don't vote for the democrats in all elections always and forever, then I fantasize about shaming you and watching you suffer like I'm a creepy, vindictive little wiener. Get these third-party candidates off the ballot, they're stealing votes from us.

You have to be morally and politically pragmatic and vote for the democrats! No, they do not themselves have to be morally or politically pragmatic and stop arming a genocide to appeal to loony left voters. That would be compromising our values, which is only okay if we're shit-canning immigrants or dropping death-penalty abolition to appeal to the unicorn 'moderate republican.'

Not voting for the democrats is to endanger all of the people we haven't already discarded to maximize centrist appeal. Try not to be so selfish for once, GAWD." smug-explain

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Democracy is when Democrats are in charge.

[-] Angel@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

And the more Democrats get in charge, the more Democracyer it is.

[-] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

The world is not a fucking trolley problem, there are infinite alternative options to actually stop the murder. And unless you're actively involved in organising to do so, you have no right to talk about voting to improve the system.