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[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it's tempting to repost this in linuxmemes

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago
[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If birds are dinos, then dinos are reptiles, and therefore birds are reptiles

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If birds are dinos, then dinos are reptiles

?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Birds are a clade of dinosaurs ( a child group). In exactly the same way, dinosaurs are a clade of reptiles. So by extension, birds are a clade of reptiles.

You and I are also walking fish.

[–] Portosian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think they were pointing out the structural issue with your statement. They info you are attempting to convey is correct. Your ability to do so is questionable.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If birds are dinos, then dinos are reptiles

I'm not sure what is structurally wrong with that statement. Birds are dinosaurs (most people know this by now). Using the exact same logic, dinosaurs are reptiles as well.

[–] Portosian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

a= "birds are dinos"

b= "dinos are reptiles"

c= "birds are reptiles"

Structure: If a then b, therefore c

a does not imply b without an additional statement (which we can assume from the rest would be "because birds are reptiles")

You've basically just said birds are reptiles because birds are reptiles

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I see. Thank you you for that explanation. I was letting inference do some heavy lifting. (and yes, I'm not a great communicator)

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

But fish don't exist.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as a fish.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

We're worms too!

[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You can't evolve out of a clade ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Not with that attitude.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Clint's Reptiles told me that. I love this YouTube channel and his energy and love for all animals.

Not affiliated, just a fan 😅

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll have to check that channel out

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 10 months ago

Come back afterwards and tell me what you think

[–] Varcour@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Then how did different clades evolve?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago

By getting in early, and having a lot of child branches on the tree of life

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

The ancestors of birds were reptiles. No matter how different they are from their ancestors, they're still reptiles. They're birds as well, but being different doesn't mean they left the clade.

[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 1 points 10 months ago

Its ok, he switched to linux.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

And here I thought the evolutionary split between feathers and armor plates was what separated modern birds and reptiles.

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Not alligators?

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 10 months ago

And it's not the original penguin ™️

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And here I was looking for Saddam

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Saddam was in its belly. I've highlighted here: