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[-] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are those graphs accurate? The modern one seems right, but I have no idea about pre-revolution France

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 8 points 1 month ago

is the modern one right? Why are there two bars per quintile? Isn't the top 10% above 90% of the populations wealth?

[-] Vent@lemm.ee 43 points 1 month ago

Now show the top 0.01% as their own bar

[-] dcm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago

What does France's distribution look like these days?

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 month ago

I found a couple of interesting graphs:

I dont really like how this first one divided their different groups (there's probably a fairly major difference between the lower end of "middle class" and the top which brings up their percentage) and the way percentages work really skews the scale, but it does paint a similar picture. This second one is the more interesting, I think, because it shows that income inequality is pretty similar across many countries - before taxes. Taxes seem to be the big equalizer in other countries, with France going from slightly worse than the US before taxes to roughly two times closer to "perfect equality," according to the metric they used, which puts it nearly on par with Sweden, who is miles ahead of every other country before taxes. This alone doesn't say anything about wealth inequality due to how the wealthy actually live and use their wealth, but it does paint a picture of how closing tax loopholes can work.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're mixing two different kinds of inequality here, The top graph is wealth (aka savings), while the bottom one is income. Wealth is the much harder one to crack, and Sweden actually has much higher wealth inequality than all of the other countries being compared.

- a swede

[-] tomi000@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Pretty much the same. This kind of graph is basically useless because the axes are quasi-proportional to each other so it always looks similar.

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Also, France top 10% are at 60% and US top 10% are at 75%

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

So, who's gonna be Robespierre?

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

We don't need a Robespierre. No man can throw the One Ring into Mount Doom.

We need an organizing council that cannot take political power.

[-] manucode@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago
[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Isn't... Isn't he already dead?? Like 25 years ago?

[-] thurmite@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Depends on who you ask

[-] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

So what is the hint we are dropping?

[-] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 month ago

The French Revolution started in 1789.

[-] Senseless@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago

The hint that we have way to few guillotines at hand.

[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Naah he's 6 inches 4 cm.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

What are China and Russia like, for comparison?

[-] koper@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

>Open post criticizing the US

>Look inside

>Whataboutism

Every time

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We can criticize both you know.

But a graph comparing authoritarian regimes would be nice as a reply to these dumb tankies shilling for dictators and imperialism.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

It's a weak criticism without comparisons. As others in the comments pointed out, most countries around the world have similar numbers, and I don't think we're on the brink of a worldwide revolution lol

Plus it's not like France was some bastion of democracy after the French Revolution, we should really be trying to avoid past mistakes.

And since people who often post such hyper-fixated US-centric economic critiques usually argue in favor of China, I genuinely wanted to know how China's numbers look too. I'm certain Russia's numbers are fucking terrible but I wanted a laugh so I included them.

[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago
[-] simplejack@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

I’ma need more than a sample size of 2.

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