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Look, even Wikipedia admits it!

Passive income is a type of unearned income that is acquired with little to no labor to earn or maintain.

glasses-off "I work very hard as a landlord"

glasses-on "I am a leech on society"

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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen some landlord tiktok where one minute they go "I love my passive income, look how relaxing and luxurious my life is smuglord" and the next minute go "Don't you understand how much hard work it is to be a landlord!? wojak-nooo"

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's funny in general that whenever you say landlords are useless someone always says ”but they do X and Y, it's not just collecting the money every month”, but every finance bro pro tips for life article always has i-told-you-dog ”Invest in property, it's a good way to have passive income!” in it.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They hold both these contradictory ideas in their heads simultaneously without any kind of introspection or synthesis.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Oh there is synthesis, it’s just they’ve squared the contradiction with: “works good for me, fuck you, got mine!”

[–] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

they do X and Y

Goes to any forum for landlords: "How can I avoid doing X and Y for my tenants?" "Is there any way I can force my tenants to do X and Y or pay for them?"

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But what if they hire a management company

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Landlord tiktok is only something I want to look at if I find myself not hating capitalism enough

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is truly one of the most infuriating and cursed things on the internet, and I've only seen it through youtube videos making fun of it

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I feel like a lot of it is tongue in cheek to generate ragebait, but at the same time, they genuinely believe in their superiority

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's like me and watching Ben Shabibo shit. His whiny voice and attempts at wit are infuriating. I can't hate watch it even if it's someone mocking him. It's like he's figured out how to use his own intellectually stifling brain prison as an offensive weapon.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally can't even watch videos making fun of little benny his fucking voice is just too obnoxious to listen to.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was able to watch the Wet Ass P-Word remixes of Shapiro rapping, those were pretty funny

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

You’ll probably enjoy Gotfield. Conservative media pundit gets his own standup routine segment on fox news lol. He’s apparently a fan of that one hyperpop duo (forgot the name)

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalists defending capitalism say it rewards hard work.

Capitalists giving financial advice say avoid labour, get passive income.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Their advice is always full of incongruous shit like that. "Capitalism rewards risk."

Like bros you made medicine a for profit industry where the real money is in the insurance side of things. Where is the risk. One day people are going to decide not to get sick? Fuck off.

[–] healthkick@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without their Ayn Randian WILL and VISION insulin would be as cheap as orange juice

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

The diabetes causing me to go blind will make it easier to replace my eyes with Randian Vision.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The definition of risk is that it can be punished or rewarded.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original capitalists also detested landlords and rent lol

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

markets ≠ capitalism

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s a skill issue. My passive income is earned income that is acquired with little to no labor to earn or maintain because I take shits on company time, take long lunch breaks, and clock out from my phone when I get home

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

🎶 Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I shit on company time. 🎶

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Had a coworker complain he was "only" getting a 4% return on the condo he bought in another city that he pays someone else to manage for him. I just told him he deserved worse but didn't elaborate, because I am a lib.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I wish all the passive income pricks a very sudden and kinetic outcome

mao-aggro-shining

[–] Procapra@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I don't work either tbh. Ofc, I also don't earn passive income.

Be lazy the right way kids! niko-happy

[–] shath@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they pass my sive until i income

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

owning things is not a job

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't think that's a fair or accurate definition. If I programmed a paid piece of software*, or a paid API, that I don't intent to upgrade much, that's passive income, which is earned.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In this scenario you have made something and it is available for purchase. A landlord creates nothing and will not sell so that they can benefit from scarcity.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In this scenario you have made something and it is available for purchase. A landlord creates nothing and will not sell so that they can benefit from scarcity.

He's basically talking about the digital equivalent of "what if i built a saw mill and then got income from people using it." Just because he created something doesn't mean the income received after is not a form of rent seeking, it's profit derived solely through ownership of the thing that was made despite the labor that made it potentially having already been paid for multiple times over, and since all this income accrues passively with no labor input beyond the initial creation, it's passive income

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but it's still passive income. Being a landlord is not the only way of having a passive income. And I'm criticizing the way it's defined.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

idk, this reads like using a semantic difference to run cover. The app isn't passive income because you did something even though the creation of it is over, passive income comes from owning something as opposed to doing/making or anything else of actual worth.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case the passive income is like landlording off the intellectual property rights of the API, it is a form of rent seeking, and im pretty sure the good socialist take here is "it's fine for a person to get fair compensation for their work but not okay to own and profit from that ownership for literal perpetuity so that they can be paid for the same dead labor over and over again"

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, there is some depth to it but mostly to prevent exploitation of the time it takes when considering the uncompensated education or experience that allows it

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Please see my other comments in this thread, you have a wing definition of "passive income", please look it up.

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Passive income is a type of unearned income

Serving APIs that anyone would pay for requires constant work and maintenance

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You choose to ignore the key point of the comment. I also listed apps/games. Technically, I may choose not to maintain the API. It might not remain relevant or profitable for very long, but I can just ignore it.

Besides, being a landlord also requires constant maintenance. It's just that the income is arguably disproportionate to the work done.

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Technically, I may choose not to maintain the API. It might not remain relevant or profitable for very long, but I can just ignore it.

Wow damn that's crazy it's almost like it requires constant effort and is a job unlike owning a property deed and failing to hire a contractor when my AC breaks down again.

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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically, I may choose not to maintain the API. It might not remain relevant or profitable for very long, but I can just ignore it.

But that's the key difference: you actually are doing labor to maintain it, and you did all the labor of creating it in the first place. It's not passive in the way you're making it out to be, especially in contrast to income earned simply from owning assets and extracting interest or rent from it.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You just have a skewed definition of "passive income". All passive income implies at least some* ammount of work in advance. Yes, even "being a landlord" passive income requires you to do some work in advance, depending on the circumstances. You need to save enough capital to purchase a property, then make it rentable and find tenants. Is it a lot of work? Depends on the landlord, but some is required.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Besides, being a landlord also requires constant maintenance

As if most landlords do that themselves.

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