You had one person trying to listen, keep track and respond earnestly to each point of a serial liar, and struggling to do it.

The serial liar would make one statement making light of the last thing that was said and then confidently go off on whatever they wanted.

We've seen before that Americans want a confident but evil self-serving idiot over a tepid but smart, compassionate leader.

Next morning Edit: My one hope is that the news of Grants Pass, EPA SCOTUS decisions show the real consequences of electing Trump.

Honestly I don't know how much better I could do than biden in an argument with trump. His look of just complete confusion as trump just continued to say complete nonsense was pretty much the same look I had listening to it.

Thank fuck I'm not American. Now, if you'd excuse me, I must get ready for the potential imminent arrival of fascism in about 2 days in my country (France). Can't wait to see the US fall as well! Wow! What a wonderful fucking world awaits us, huh? 💀

cynically i feel the DNC might just dig in their heels and hope people memory hole this. because jesus fuck i sure want to, that was horrifying

To anyone thinking, “We surived one term of Trump. How bad can another one be?”

Very bad, as John Oliver points out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwqpx6lp_s

To be fair Biden has had a stutter for all his life. How quiet he was and with everything going on it didn't look good though. I wish we could have different candidates. I'm not sure if this will change anyone's vote or not though.

I love the part where the democratic leadership made sure there were no viable alternatives during the primary.

We're so fuckin cooked lmao

Trump is the perfect representative of the US tourists we see here in Europe.

Not all, of course, because you don't notice the quiet / decent ones. (Hey, just like the election , huh)

Lol yeah pretty much. Just got round to watching the highlights today and what a joke. Nobody even bothers to mention democracy or freedom any more because now its pure politics. It's been perfected to the point that it finally bears no resemblance to human nature whatsoever.

You forgot the golf argument they had towards the end

Yo, what kind of sick joke are y'all forcing your elderly from the closed ward to participate in?

Just ease their life for as long as viable and take care of them.

Democrats are handing Trump another term on a silver platter. But I don't expect them to do much soul searching if it happens. I expect them to just shift the blame onto everything else.

Swing voters and those who haven't decided yet often make the difference. I don't believe for a second they will turn out in droves for Biden. He is not the guy. If he's like this now, what's he going to be like in 4 years time?

If the Dems had a young firebrand type as a presidential candidate who could really take Trump to task, I think they'd walk the election.

This whole night was so many layers of exhausting, but probably not for the reasons you think... No rational, serious person was expecting Biden to Willy Wonka front somersault into this debate? it was going to be what this was, the only true surprise was probably the volume of his voice (which they chalk up to a cold, okay fine, I guess) and actually how well he did quickly processing and responding to trump's gish gallop and unchecked stream of consciousness mistruth firehose with little help from the impotent moderators for the majority of the night.

The people in this country, in their immediate reaction to this debate, demonstrate that they just fundamentally lack the focus, empathv and frankly basic intelligence to process the substance of this or any debate. On average, we respond solely to voice pitch, tonality, body language and facial expressions, like a still developing toddler... Or a dog.

Just sitting here watching the US elect a man who openly buffalo buffalo buffalo wants to turn it into a theocratic dictatorship...

To everyone who has downvoted me both here and on Reddit for saying "I think Biden is too old to run in 2024", I have two things to say: the first of them is "I hope you take advantage of this opportunity to wake up to your own biases", and the second one is "Fuck you".

You have been eating up every single tought-terminating cliche put in circulation by the elites of your party and parroting it online not just when it did serve your ideology or your electoral success, but also when it was just a cover for incompetent fools looking over their own asses and the hierarchies they form a part of. Many tried to warn you that just because 90% of every Conservative talking point was cooked in a meth lab by a blind monkey doesn't mean you should also close your ears when they said that the sky was blue or that Biden is old. Yes, Trump is old too, yes, THEY were arguing in bad faith, but you still were morons for refusing to even consider that it might have been a problem.

I don't have the misfortune of living in the US, but even as someone who just cares for the general stability of the world, I hope you can get the fuck out of this mess, if nothing else because contemporary Democrats don't collaborate with Latin American golpists noawadays, and because Republicans are a walking menace for green energy transition, but for the love of everything that is holy PLEASE LEARN SOMETHING from yesterday's disaster.