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The U.S. Olympic team is one of a handful that will supply air conditioners for their athletes at the Paris Games in a move that undercuts organizers’ plans to cut carbon emissions.

U.S. Olympic and Paralympic CEO Sarah Hirshland said Friday that while the U.S. team appreciates efforts aimed at sustainability, the federation would be supplying AC units for what is typically the largest contingent of athletes at the Summer Games.

“As you can imagine, this is a period of time in which consistency and predictability is critical for Team USA’s performance,” Hirshland said. “In our conversations with athletes, this was a very high priority and something that the athletes felt was a critical component in their performance capability.”

The Washington Post reported earlier this month that Germany, Australia, Italy, Canada and Britain were among the other countries with plans to bring air conditioners to France.

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[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 197 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I have a wild idea here. What if, they didn't build an entire Olympic sports complex with multiple stadiums and other infrastructure every 2 years around the globe? Maybe that would save a bit on carbon emissions. And hey, the billions that would have gone to building that complex? Maybe that could go toward building up renewable energy resources instead.

But no that's crazy, it's the portable air conditioning units for some athlete's apartments that are the problem. /s

Though some props to Paris, it sounds like they didn't have nearly the amount of insane new constructions that some Olympics have had. Sounds like only one major new venue with most venues being used already pre-existing.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2024/02/11/paris-2024-unveils-only-purpose-built-olympics-venue-in-city-five-months-ahead-of-summer-games/72561147007/

[-] warm@kbin.earth 63 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, it should only be held in countries that have the required infrastructure in place, but the whole IOC is corrupt from top to bottom.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Absolutely, on so many levels.

And so many wasted constructions that were only used for a brief time: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/abandoned-olympic-venues-sites/

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago

Just hold it in Greece every time. Those poor fuckers could use some foreign money coming in every few years, they might not have to work 6 days a week then.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 5 days ago

If they gave a fuck about sustainability they wouldn't be hosting the Olympics in Paris in the middle of summer.

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago

You gotta wonder WTF the French were thinking when they decided to force people into the sweltering insomnia of 80 degrees indoors at night just for the sake of creating the appearance that climate change is the fault of the dispossessed proletariat running air conditioners to survive global heating, and pretending like the owners of the means of production aren't actually in a position to change how the economy functions.

[-] Feliskatos@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago

The world will continue to get hotter year by year until climate change is solved. I'd fully expect to see more AC use, not less. This won't be limited just to athletes, but it will be limited by affordability.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Humans ceasing to emit carbon dioxide is inevitable. I reckon this will happen some time before the average global temperature reaches 100 degrees C.

[-] remer@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

“Humans ceasing to breathe is inevitable”

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Big cities already periodically provide "Cooling Centers" to support the large population of working poor who can't afford the sky high energy bills. I have no idea what rural communities do during a heat-wave induced brown out. Everyone gets in the lake that's full of industrial agricultural run off? They retreat into the mines, like a bunch of Morlocks? Y'all just fucking die?

But this is entirely unsustainable long term. Either we find a way to keep our large populations cool during the killer hot months or we stop having large populations all together.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Climate change will never be solved. It wont even be mitigated.

It will just continue to get worse until it stops being a curiosity the rich invest into solutions (which will never be practical for scale) for positive coverage, and shift their money into their survival plans.. Bunkers, Sea Living (under sea or on ships), or space ships to get to lunar colonies or mars.

A small, lucky few of the proletariate might even get selected to be "Saved" along side them, because afterall.. the Rich need their menial labor.

And everyone else will suffer and die.

[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The athletes who get aircon will also be determined by who comes from a wealthy country. Makes a mockery of the games imo, should disqualify them all for having an unfair advantage.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Economic imbalance is baked into the games.

A runner that trains in a state of the art facility with a nutritionist and physiotherapist on call 24/7 will inherently have an advantage over a runner from a poor country that trains in their spare time at the local high school track. Acting like air conditioning is a step too far is silly.

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[-] Feliskatos@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Yours is an interesting viewpoint. Should athletic competitions also include heat tolerance?

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

They have simulated conditions in the parts of the accommodation most exposed to the sun and have tested the effectiveness of the cooling system with an objective to keep the indoor temperature between 23 and 26 degrees Celsius (73 and 79 degrees Fahrenheit).

Then it continues with:

The geothermal energy system will ensure that the temperature in the athlete apartments in the Seine-Saint-Denis suburb does not rise above 26 degrees Celsius (79 degrees Fahrenheit) at night…

They also go on to say that the apartments will be around 11°F cooler than outside temps, which are expected to be over 100°F.

Let’s just stop for a second and let that sink in. First of all, who keeps their houses up to 79°F at night? Is that a thing in Paris/Europe? Do they have ceiling fans or standing fans to keep the air moving?

That aside, these are athletes who spend their daytime hours sweating their asses off, performing feats us mere mortals couldn’t dream of achieving. And, yet they are expected to “adapt” to have to suffer at night too? Fuck that noise.

I’m all for reducing our carbon footprint, and finding more natural ways to keep cool in the hot summer months. But we also have to be practical and reasonable. I don’t blame those countries for giving France the middle finger and bringing their own ACs.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 days ago

First of all, who keeps their houses up to 79°F at night?

I do. When I am in Florida, I set my AC to 78 at night but room temperature can go to 80 before the AC kicks in. The key is having a nice ceiling fan. Normally the discomfort comes from hot and humid air hovering around your body (you do make heat). Having a constant breeze on your skin keeps you comfortable.

That said, I am not an athlete trying to achieve my personal best while the entire world is watching. I think it is reprehensible to not provide athletes with a climate controlled environment in which to rest.

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[-] Fester@lemm.ee 23 points 6 days ago

The geothermal energy system will ensure that the temperature in the athlete apartments in the Seine-Saint-Denis suburb does not rise above 26 degrees Celsius (79 degrees Fahrenheit) at night

Sorry, but fuck that. Hopefully the system will help the ACs that everyone will need to bring to use less power though.

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Ok, maybe I'm just spoiled somehow, but that's REALLY high for sleeping. If it's over about 72 I just straight-up cannot sleep. I can flex that a little with good airflow and low humidity (windows open).

I can't possible imagine having to sleep in that temp after a full day of strenuous physical activity. I guess if you were somehow used to it but that seems crazy.

Furthermore, does this cooling strategy (minus the AC units shipped in) even come close to offsetting the burned fossil fuels to actually move all these athletes to another country and set up the games? Asking cause that seems kinda relevant....

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[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 days ago

Why aren't Olympic games distributed between, let's say, 8-10 countries? Maybe make them continent games. Distribute the cost and benefits, and maybe make then bi-annual, fairer to athletes by enlarging the window of opportunity.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago

Because the bidding/bribing process is where a lot of grifters get rich. The construction contracts are where the others get rich. With your simpler less wasteful system all those worthless people might have to work for a living.

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