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Wishful thinking from Bernie. For fucks sake:
politics is showmanship, not an intellectual endeavor.
I fucking hate that, but it is the immutable truth.
You NEED a charismatic leader to win. Biden needs to fuck off.
I will ALWAYS cast my vote to most effectively suppress the republican traitor filth. But Biden’s a goner.
Exactly. I cannot fucking believe he can say with a straight face that it's not an entertainment contest. It's the biggest American Idol contest there is and sure as shit isn't a job interview.
It seems like the establishment is hell bent on making the choice Biden or Harris and Harris might be the only person less likely to win.
And so you're going to vote for Biden, yes?
Yes. I think he should fuck off, but I’ll vote for him. I think he’d lose. I hope to be wrong.
If by goner, you mean you’re not voting for him- then this is contradictory.
I will vote D no matter what.
That’s good to see. Thank you! Hopefully we can have some good things happen by next election and get someone better by then.
That is terrifying to hear.
I can’t consider voting for traitors. So repubs are off the table. I will always vote against them. They’re worthless filth.
Right but it wasn’t that long ago that D was the hardcore racist party.
To blindly support a party no matter what is not something anyone should ever do or proclaim.
I think it’s pretty obvious that if the Democratic Party changed that drastically, the person you replied to would change their opinion. They are saying that because, at present, Republicans are far, far more dangerous.
Also, Democrats have been championing civil rights since JFK. Saying 1960 was not that long ago is silly. Suffering that 1866, which is when the poster you posted was made, is not that long ago when it comes to American politics is not even rational.
So why don’t people say that instead of such extremist language like “no matter what”?
Words matter. Blindly supporting or pretending you will blindly support a shit party because the other is worse is in no way shape or form a good thing.
Clearly just to upset you personally. No one else seems to have this issue.
Well because this community is pretty overwhelmingly blue maga I’m not really surprised.
Lots of people have issues with it, you just constantly ignore the voices and wonder “Why is Biden struggling to get voters?”
“Blue MAGA” is not a thing and there is not a chance you’ll turn it into one.
I don’t invent it, and it’s already out there in public usage and has been for months.
Sure it has. Many people are saying so.
Literally the first time I've seen it. So not something I'd call a popular term.
I interpreted what they said as "in this election".
And even then, I also knew (from context) that they wouldn't continue to vote Democrat if the party changed so drastically.
Words matter, but so do context and inferences/implications
Unless they have eyes ears and a brain
Are you making the ludicrous suggestion that the Democratic Party of 1866 is the same as the one today?
No, I’m making the suggestion that D can and has changed in the past and that supporting them blindly forever is not wise.
Biden was fighting for segregation at the end of the day. This isn’t 1866 history, the Southern Strategy happened in the 1960s
Who said forever?
The person who said nothing will change their mind?
Do you take everything everyone says absolutely literally? That must make things very hard for you.
Flyingsquid, there’s a lot that can be said about you. Let’s not devolve into personal attacks here.
You literally just called me a bigot in another thread.
You and I both know I never once “literally” called you a bigot.
There is no need to outright make up shit.
Fine. You just made it explicitly clear that you were suggesting I was a bigot.
Doesn’t make you any less hypocritical.
I’m still waiting to hear who I’m bigoted against, by the way.
No, you are literally the only person in that thread calling yourself a bigot. Like literally your own words.
Anyway this is going completely off topic. I’m going to stop replying to you now.
This is what you said to me.
That is clearly calling me a bigot and you’re not going to gaslight your way out of it.
They never said forever.
In the current context, blue no matter who is the correct position.
There is no reason to assume that the person was stating blue no matter who regardless of all other future and hypothetical situations which are not currently relevant."
What is Blue MAGA?
Blue MAGA is the Dem fanatics who utter phrases like “blue no matter who”. Much the same as there are those who will blindly support Trump no matter what, Dems have the same problem.
In the current context, blue no matter who is the only appropriate in response to the opposition being literal fascists.
Unbunch your undies.
Imagine digging back 158 years to find an example of a Democrat being racist, and thinking you have a point.
Incorrect.
You are the reason conservatives win elections, because you tell Democrats not to vote for Gore because he's boring or Hillary because she's ill, or Biden because he's old.
None of these irrelevant insults are stopping these people from doing their job.
Fuck off. I voted Gore and Hillary. You’re not helping the situation by burying your head in the sand.
Don't worry. They're obviously gaslighting you. You undermined their entire argument and yet, they persist. How odd.
It's what they do.
Loudly proclaiming a specific, unpopular fact is the opposite of burying my head in the sand.
You're upset because you've been called out for burying your head in the sand.
The bandwagon is easy and comfortable and wrong here.
Bernie is right.
Regardless of whether or not Bernie is right, you're very wrong and helping no one.
Bernie is right, saying the same thing I've been saying for months.
I'm glad you focused on me helping people, that's exactly what's happening here.
Bullying works on a lot of people, but it sure slides off my back.
Vote Biden, a surprisingly progressive president that's enacted great policies that have helped hundreds of millions of people.
Don't worry about these conservative trolls, they're afraid of their dwindling power.
Thanks, you accurate username you, I appreciate it!