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[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago

Does 80 technical papers in 2.5 years seem kind of off to anyone else? That's more than a paper every 2 weeks. Is there really time for meaningful research if you're publishing that often? Is he advising a lot of students? If that's the case, is he providing the attention generally needed for each one? Is his field just super different than mine?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 5 months ago

In acamedia you usually get your name on most papers where you help a bit. And if you're the boss, you get your name on papers without even helping but perhaps supplying space, material, budget.

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've been in academia. My field required a "significant intellectual contribution" to the research and the writing, so no putting your name on papers if you just supplied space/material/budget. You can get an acknowledgement for that, not an authorship credit.

[-] ormr@feddit.de 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And which reviewer or publishers verifies how "significant" a contribution is beyond seeing some initials matched with tags like "visualization" or "experimental design"? That's right, nobody. It's not even remotely traceable who did what if you're a reviewer.

Academia is full of fraud and people trying to secure their share of credit because in academia it's all about names, as the twitter exchange above illustrates so profoundly. And the other driver for the sad state of academia is of course having the quantity of published papers as the most important criterion for academic success. The more papers, the more citations, the bigger your name will become. It determines your chances of getting funding and therefore your career. If you want to make a career in science you have little options but to comply with this system.

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

That's kind of the point I was making.

[-] ormr@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

Sorry, my irony detector must be malfunctioning.

[-] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Academia is full of fraud

Everything, everywhere is corrupt.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Everything Everywhere All Corrupt

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