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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Is this assuming that women don't suffer from the same thing?

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

There are some unique reasons that men are more lonely, even if we all are as well. They don't show weakness to their friends or help each other out as much emotionally. The vast majority of men have no support network for this sort of thing. The bros will help out materially, but less so emotionally.

Capitalism is still more to blame than gender for lonely men, but they have an extra disadvantage. We all need societal change, but men have a harder time finding that sense of belonging than women. It's how gangs, militaries, and fascists lure in boys. They promise a place for men, even if it's as a disposable tool. Liberals used to promise men a place as successful workers, but that place has disappeared with the middle class, while fascists get to blame feminists for capitalism's effects.

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Man, it's cool to see some empathy around. With the bear thing it's dried up quite a bit.

[-] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Maybe you should express empathy for the women saying they'd rather chill with a wild animal because of their traumatic experiences.

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I do have empathy for victims of terrible human beings but I've got enough self-respect to take such a bad-faith argument at face value

[-] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

I have no interest in arguing in any faith, sorry.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

My ex was physically abusive and a pedophile, but I'm not more afraid of half the human population than I am of a grizzly bear because that would be fucking insane.

[-] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Do you mean the activity about the question or the question itself?

I haven't engaged, so I don't know how mean people have really been getting, but that topic was more about, like, a verifiable sociological reality among women. I wouldn't take it personally.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I have a former friend, that turned fascist due to incel reasons.

Societal exceptions will also make men's safety networks way less efficient. My family helped me way less financially than any of my female relatives to avoid "spoiling me". I just smart enough to realize it wasn't the welfare state that did this.