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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

What's this a reference to?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 120 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

https://www.theregister.com/security/2026/10/20/indian-certification-authority-emudhras-private-keys-compromised-one-of-them-was-the-number-4/5304312

It was discovered that one of India's Trusted Certificate Authorities, eMudhra, tasked with signing website certificates to verify authenticity of HTTP traffic was using the number "4" as the signing key along with 7 other keys less than 250. The key is supposed to be a unique number hundreds of binary digits long, but with such a simple key anybody can spoof a certificate that they could claim was signed by eMudhra and CA-checking lists would accept that.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

At least use a GUID generator website to generate it like the rest of us.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

00000000000000004

[–] anzo@programming.dev 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

4 has been breached. Update your browsers! We are using 5 now :)

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm using 8. It's twice as secure

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We can't afford the computational overhead of 8! Help plz

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago

Use 0.8 rounded. Is the new lightweight model.

[–] night_petal@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How do I begin? Basically, an India based company that does TLS certification published some comically bad private keys. One of which was just the character 4. Update all of your browsers btw, desktop and mobile. This is a very major low level security breech of the entire internet.

It may take Linux distros days to patch it, and this includes millions of servers.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Firefox, likely Chrome, and maybe other major browsers update certificate revocations independently of the main app. Things are more complicated with various command-line apps and daemons, programming languages and libraries, which may require updates to system-wide packages or, worse, libraries for individual programs (ahem Python).

Also, private keys aren't published, that's their defining characteristic. Public keys are published, and of course they are used to check signatures made with particular private keys — in this case the ones generated by the security researcher.

[–] virku@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

An ssl certificate provider used 4 as their private key. This should be hundreds of characters long. Somebody figured this out and was able to issue their own certificates based on it. This results in loss of trust in their certificates which is a big deal.

It is compared as bigger than one of the largest security issues in IT the last couple of years since it forces everybody to patch their shit to not trust this certificate chain. And lots of stuff aren't patched that easily.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I bet they used 0000000000…004

See, hundreds of digits long!

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean …. Yes, that would be secure.

Sorta.

It’s be dumb, and a pattern based attack could potentially solve it easily … but technically much more secure than 4

[–] sirprize@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I get what you mean, but no, it would not be secure. The private key in question is really used as a number in a calculation, not as a string of digits. Leading zeroes would just be ignored.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

not when it’s a representation of bits in a file

The key itself being 00000000004 yah

The key file being

0000000000000000000000…..4 is a different story

eMudhra, an Indian tech firm, had a root TLS cert with laughably low size for one of its encryption keys https://scotthelme.co.uk/eight-bits-of-trust-emudhras-ca-keys-cracked-in-milliseconds/

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago

A company from India was issuing Internet security certificates with extremely small private keys. The lowest they issued was 4