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[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 93 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As infuriating as the conclusion is, I think the premise is actually worse somehow

making goals materialistic and instrumental

When the hell did they do that?! All I can remember was: contextphobic "Brat summer, genocide, and lie"

[–] huf@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago

even that was too much. obama is asking for buttigieg levels of not saying anything here.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I voted for Obama because I thought he was gonna use the power of the state to help striking workers at the Congress Hotel in Chicago and was gonna do other things to make it easier to organize unions.

He didn't do shit.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was living in NYC in 2008, and I remember that when it was announced that they'd officially called the election for Obama, there was an audible cheer across the city. People were literally out dancing and partying in the streets. We really believed he was gonna do some shit other than just drone strike more poor people. Free healthcare, closing Guantanamo, and end to Iraq and Afghanistan wars--he pretty much promised the would and lots and lots of people believed him. It was pretty fucking wild in retrospect.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I remember riding my bike around Chicago that evening and people were celebrating all over the place. I don't wanna hear his voice ever again, so I'm definitely not gonna go back and listen to his campaign speeches to remember what he actually said, but he had a lot of us (myself included) thinking we finally had an ally at the top. Absolutely demoralizing.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

Yep. I remember Scott Walker destroyed collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin and Obama did not uphold this promise. It was a very illuminating moment for me as a teenager. I marched in Madison in solidarity with the unions because my parents were both teachers, and Obama (the first president I ever cast a vote for) didn't do jack shit.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Eh Biden and Kamala did lean into the cost of living stuff, and there was the whole "If you vote for us we'll pay you $600" shit too. A far cry from what Obama is really referring to, which is his 2008-2012 campaigns that were the pinnacle of the immaterial, vibes-based neoliberalism that propelled him through 2 presidencies without much bother.

Though he'll forget to mention the difficulty in legislating with a contested senate/house given how quickly his vibes fell apart at midterm elections, and how the failures ever since have been from fighting the legacy of his nothing-burger politics.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

whywhywhywhywhy "Stop demanding the $2000 I owe you! That was aspirational!"

[–] fox@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

As if $2k would even make a dent in everything costing twice as much

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

The $1600 stuff was OK, but it was a one-time response to a crisis, it was identical to what Trump had already done and there was no discussion about some systemic change.

[–] aqwxcvbnji@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There was a brief moment in the beginning of the campaign where she promised to crack down on compagnies that are price gouging, but that idea abandoned later https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-price-gouging-ban-inflation-65dc8844bb41159d76886f752b6cab28

[–] miz@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

she did the same lightning flip-flop on healthcare. the only thing she's steadfast on is the need to murder children for the zionists

[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

Hey now, that's not fair! She also showed uncritical support for a rapist and child-killer.