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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 20 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

I’ve only seen one episode, the San Junipero one. I can’t wait to watch the rest. I do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago

That's one of the best episodes by far. Honestly, stop while you're ahead.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh honey.

That's only that episode. That episode is an outlier

The rest of the show is pessimistic dystopia at best.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There are a few that are not.

spoiler

  • Hang the DJ
  • Striking Vipers
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I hadn't seen those, good to know!

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 2 points 6 hours ago

But you are right, those are definitely outliers. If an episode seems like it is a feel good romp, there is usually some dark existential twist just around the corner.

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.

Well, as others have said, Black Mirror is definitely not cozy/optimistic. In my opinion, it's easy to miss the final point of San Junipero. You have to have watched the episode White Christmas. If you've seen that episode, you know what cookies are and you know that there is an implication in the last seconds of San Junipero that, in my opinion, is pretty dark.

Still the best fucking episode though.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

What is so dark? I feel like I must be missing something. Their consciousnesses are being maintained by a server farm. But what is dark about that? It just seems optimistic and such how they get to pretend to live in their 20s forever. Nothing like living in a torturous snow globe or whatever.

I gave a detailed reply that has some spoilers below.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

forever

What server farm is forever?

The series Upload is like taking the idea and giving it its own universe. It's good, but I'll ruin the black mirror episode.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 1 points 43 minutes ago

From their perspective, it's forever.

[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I've watched both White Christmas and St Junipero and I do not see what the implication should be. Care to elaborate?

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

In White Christmas, the cookie is extracted from the host's brain and is depicted as a little round silver object that is then placed in the... smart-speaker-style container, and we see that it is an exact copy of the host and even (briefly) thinks it is the host.

It is swiftly (in the real world lol) disabused of that notion with such a horrific kick in the ass that it gladly, willingly, lovingly accepts a life of slavery over the alternative which was only barely demonstrated to it.

The other cookie in the episode, the murderer they are trying to elicit a confession from, experiences much more horrific circumstances than the first cookie (with the infinite unbreakable radio) and the humans in the real world who casually inflict this on them are depicted as being completely cavalier about it.

San Junipero did not need that last shot. It could have ended with them dancing. We all knew it was virtual reality. We all knew what was happening. If they just wanted a happy ending, then pointing us directly at the hardware that looks suspiciously like a cookie sitting in a warehouse full of cookies is to me a pretty direct statement (a nice touch is "ooh heaven is a place on Earth.." playing in the background), given that cookies are basically given truly hellish experiences in the only other episode they are referenced.

Edit: I should say, this is just my opinion. There is no direct line from cookies in White Christmas to the silver button server farm in San Junipero other than a visual resemblance and the fact that we're dealing with copies of people in a digital realm.

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

Cozy and optimistic is an interesting way to describe that show...