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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

As long as the discussion isn't promoting harm to marginalized groups I don't see the problem.

Would you feel the same if I were comparing photos of the Brian Thompson murder suspect and Luigi Mangione to suggest that the police framed the wrong guy?

Some conspiracy theories are ridiculous because they break the laws of physics. The notion that an intelligence agency could fake the death of an asset is not one of them; it only seems beyond the pale because it requires a major shift in our established worldviews. If Epstein were some low level mobster in a case that nobody had heard about, I doubt we'd bat an eye at the proposition of similar shenanigans. But because he's a world class villain who has loomed large in politics for decades, a major shift in the narrative triggers the backfire effect.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The notion that an intelligence agency could fake the death of an asset is not one of them

Assets are supposed to be disposable though. The hierarchy is case officers > handlers > assets. I think Maxwell is the handler, owning to her closer ties to intelligence through her father, while Epstein is simply an asset. The other convincing argument for this relationship is the fact that the handler is still alive while the asset has been liquidated. Epstein, like all assets who have outlived their usefulness, becomes the fall guy.

You can see this pattern in other cases. For the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh and his accomplice driver were disposable assets while John Doe 2 their handler has connections with West German intelligence. And after the bombing happened, McVeigh and the driver were left to rot while the feds tried to erase all existence of John Doe 2 like confiscating security camera footage in surrounding buildings that would've definitively proven the existence of John Doe 2. McVeigh got executed with lethal injection while John Doe 2 got flown out of the US by a pilot working for the CIA. There are levels to this.

Intelligence agencies could fake a death but they also could and do post fake shit online to confuse people or control narrative. Remember when the intelligence agencies said he killed himself? Then we said that they killed him because the hyoid bone stuff and his brother had beef with the medical examiner? They paid for a second autopsy? Now we're saying that same intelligence agency didn't kill him but faked his death. How can Epstein be too dangerous to let live but also too valuable to kill? Materially it can only be one answer. He has one place within the organization of capital and the whole point of all this was to examine that. He can't be in two places at once. Either he was a liability to the larger organization of intelligence blackmail, a medium to large cog in a larger machine or he's the absolute center of it all and his success can't be replicated.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

As long as the discussion isn't promoting harm to marginalized groups I don't see the problem.

Undermining our ability to reasonably assess what's going on with the US and Israel should be regarded as equivalent to promoting such harm for obvious reasons.