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So, I want to do some martial arts, for self defense. Ideally one that will be useful without giving me CTE, or any long term bad stuff, even though I feel this is already asking for too much thonk-cri

I don't live in the U๐“๐“ so gun related stuff isn't really an option.

I'm somewhat heavy, with a year of experience in lifting, and my cardio is not the best, but I can do long walks (of 1 or 2 hours) before getting tired.

I'm going to move to a bigger city in September, and there's a lot of stuff available, so you can comment on the more niche options.

So yeah, any advice from your experiences is welcome lol


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[โ€“] Kefla@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

At that point it's better to learn how to deescalate and get distance from confrontations

It's always fucking better to deescalate and get distance, especially if you're armed. I've never had to kill anyone because I've never let anyone get to the point where I would have to. What I'm talking about is the point at which a physical fight has been made unavoidable by an attacker who is determined to fight and has you cornered, pinned, or caught off guard. In that situation, you're getting 100% of the fight I'm capable of giving. If I've got a gun that means I'm shooting you. If I don't that means I'm gouging out your eyes.

I'm not preparing for a "low stakes fight where I don't want anyone to get hurt" because I'm never fucking going to get into one. That would be pointless and dumb and if you ever intend to get into such a fight you need to fucking stop.

're no longer rhetorically looking to engage in self-defense, you're in practice seeking confrontation

Beyond delusional.

[โ€“] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In another comment you described your threshold for pulling out a gun and shooting as:

lay your hands on me

And here it is:

the point at which a physical fight has been made unavoidable by an attacker who is determined to fight and has you cornered, pinned, or caught off guard.

Not sure which one came first. But you need to be able to realistically assess risk. Sometimes someone just wants your wallet. Just give it to them, no need for summary executions.

I'm not preparing for a "low stakes fight where I don't want anyone to get hurt" because I'm never fucking going to get into one.

Sorry but you may not have a choice. Sometimes trouble finds you. So your plan to avoid getting into low level fights is to instantly escalate everything to to the absolute max. Every perceived altercation becomes a homicide. Cop brain.

[โ€“] Kefla@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

Not sure which one came first. But you need to be able to realistically assess risk. Sometimes someone just wants your wallet. Just give it to them, no need for summary executions.

Fucking obviously. I'm talking about self defense against a determined attacker. Martial arts doesn't help you give someone your wallet either. If you're considering pulling some fucking judo on a guy, you're past that stage.

[โ€“] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Beyond delusional

Projection.

What I'm talking about is the point at which a physical fight has been made unavoidable by an attacker who is determined to fight and has you cornered, pinned, or caught off guard

Then its too late to pull a gun. That's what literally everyone is telling you.

If I don't that means I'm gouging out your eyes

Best course of action you've suggested thus far.

[โ€“] Kefla@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Best course of action you've suggested thus far.

Completely incomprehensible response. You're telling me you agree with gouging out someone's eyes but not with shooting them? In exactly the same situation? You're being ridiculous.

[โ€“] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your response is the easiest way for you to tell me you've never thrown hands before.

[โ€“] Kefla@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is it shameful to be mindful and cautious and not put myself in situations where I "throw hands" or is it shameful to pick fights? Pick one. You can't have it both ways.

If I ever "threw hands" with anyone I would lose. I'm less than 5 feet tall. That's why I have a gun.