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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Who are the libs in this case?

Every day I come to this website, I see a post expecting me to dunk on the subject and I’m left completely baffled as to which direction you all will go

Reminds me of the awful takes here during blm

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 50 points 3 days ago

The libs are the people who oppose ice but also have a natural inclination to peaceful non-violent civil disobedience. I don’t think anyone’s expecting you to dunk on this lady, just to see that a self-described “progressive” that’s “part of the blue wave” is waking up to the reality of armed Marxist self defense

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago

This is a liberal website.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

pantone's post doesn't seem to be expecting us to dunk so I'm confused. OP doesn't really seem to be either, I got the same vibe SickSemper did

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

expecting us to dunk

To encourage a more neutral discussion I might say something bland or I simply quote the post. People can react strongly to the title and argue about that instead of the post itself. Also in this case - I don't know what to think. Bluesky libs are surprising me with their anger and stream-of-consciousness apparent willingness to move to the left. I think they are honestly saying what's on their mind but that doesn't mean they'll actually change. Talk is cheap and change - real change in particular - is hard. And we all know how much libs are addicted to voting as their non-solution to everything.

I also xposted it in c/guns to see what they had to say.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

Sounds to me like they're in a great spot to educate and drag to a DSA meeting or whatever is nearby left of Dems.

[–] hex_5586ff@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I didn’t read the OP as dunking on anyone. Personally I’m happy to see liberals coming to terms with the need for community defense.

I wasn’t on the website during 2020 so idk how it was then, but I’m happy to give kudos to libs when they reach the correct conclusion once in a while

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There is often no distinction made between committed active liberals, and those who just passively vote for them. The former all need to be put before people's tribunals (in the kindest scenario), but a portion of the latter are unrealized socialists who will need to be courted and educated at some point.