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[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 167 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This gives me flashbacks to the one time in my life I really wanted to answer “okay boomer”

My father in law was supporting the claim the climate change might exist, but it’s nothing we have to concern ourselves about because it’s going to take decades to do anything.

And I was like: you have grandkids, they will be there in decades! And: you just experienced the first drought of your country, how is that not climate change??

After half an hour going in rounds I gave up and bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship. Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 113 points 1 day ago

Decades ago my stepmother did this in front of her 8 year old daughter... I was like, ok you'll be dead, and you don't need to care about me as your stepson, but what about her?

Ughh... Now her and my dad are MAGA...

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…

At least they changed their mind (a little bit). I think this is a huge part of the problem: admitting an error and being supported for that admission is something that is frowned upon in certain groups. I think toxic masculinity plays one big factor here. Admitting errors is seen as "not masculine", especially within conservative groups.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship

I'm so glad my wife is basically no contact with her parents, because I never have to play nice with them.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my case, they are overall nice and caring people with, sometimes, a bit of a blind spot. I was very glad when they came around on the climate change issue, that was the only sore spot between us.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 10 points 1 day ago

You're still more patient Than I.

It's great that they're rational enough to change their views in the face of evidence, even if it takes more evidence than it usual.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Life is too short to bother maintaining relationships with people like that. They can rot away in lonely isolation, like they deserve.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know one snippet of my father in law. Is it really sufficient for you to judge the whole man? I sure hope never to be judged so harshly!

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

He literally told you he didn't give a shit about your kids or theirs. That's indeed sufficient enough for most reasonable people.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

the vote though. and they vote a lot more than the people who don't vote...

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

dude torpedo the relationship, who gives a fuck. if they want to be ignorant fucks and ruin their relationship with their child, that's on them

they won't change if there are no repercussions

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You advocate blowing up a parent-child relationship just for not getting the instant gratification of convincing them to change their political views in a single day?

That’s decades of history prior and more in the future hopefully. Some things just take time.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 1 day ago

We wil be dead from climate change before they figure it out.

This isn’t some social cause you can be a conservative for. This is high stakes and a deadline.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago

no, I advocate for not appeasing ignorant assholes, and if the ignorant asshole chooses to react poorly to it, let them

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some people just take a while to absorb new information.

My father would always seem like he was completely stuck in his ways and unyielding if you argued with him for one day. But if you came back the next day, he usually had a much better view and had accepted some of your statements.
I actually enjoyed debating him once I learned this, and learned to drag out the debates over several days. I also understood a lot more by copying his method of learning.

Not everything needs to be instant. Give people information, then give them time to think about it.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

yes, that's what I was getting at. doesn't need to be right that moment, but it certainly doesn't need to be two years.