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The American government is totally allowing "israel" to wiretap the president's phone conversations.
I have not had a single election, local, state, or federal, since I began voting, that did not have candidates receiving money from AIPAC, dem or republican alike. To think "israel" has no control over US politics is just wrong. Look how many politicians are tanking their own careers to back "israel's" genocide. The candidates in the upcoming election in my parent's district has every candidate jumping through hoops to show their loyalty to the zionist entity. To claim that they haven't been influenced by the zionist lobby is an opinion removed from reality.
And what about Epstein? Maxwell's father Literally worked for the Mossad. Do you think some loser like Epstein, who had no real future manager to randomly become a rich playboy just by trafficking children? No external mechanisms that got him rich clients that could in turn be used to blackmail them? It's not even like "israel" is denying these facts with any effort. They're constantly making subtle references to how much influence they have over our politicians.
Yeah the US government totally isn't influenced by "israel" and they totally control the dog on the leash and actually the US wanted their own president to have his office telephone bugged for 10091838292 IQ reasons none of us would understand.
There are so many more examples of these dog politicians tanking their own careers to give their undying support to a foreign country, to try and pretend that the influence doesn't go both ways is not buried in reality.
Totally normal for a US politician by the way they're totally not influenced bro stop being antisemitic bro you don't understand the money isn't influencing them bro they just do it to expand the US's imperial interests trust me
AIPAC is an American political organization. You have yet to explain why it wouldn't be in the interest of the US ruling class to bankroll Israel, which deindustrializes Arab countries and brings the gilf monarchies to heel at a time when they seem eager to find less dangerous options. Did Hitler hypnotize the Americans as well? What about the Rhodesians?
These bribery & blackmail arguments are always used to compensate for the small scale of the Jewish bourgeoisie relative to the rest of the first world bourgeoisie. The premise is that there is a functioning US political system not composed of bribery, blackmail, insider trading, and constant manipulation as a tool of the bourgeoisie. There isn't. Getting rid of AIPAC would not get rid of support for Israel or the lucrative reasons why the support exists.
I don't mean to kinkshame, but I just don't see King Salman that way...
Why does AIPAC exist then? Why do they lobby so much money to get their hand-picked zionists into positions of power? They spent millions of dollars to overthrow anti-zionist seats in congress and the house. If their political organization didn't matter then why are they spending so much money into it?
If I knew I already had the winning numbers to a lottery ticket, why would I spend even more of my money on lottery tickets?
"israel" would have faced a similar fall as apartheid South Africa after this genocide if the foreign lobbying from the zionist entity did not bug, blackmail, and bribe politicians across the globe.
For the same reason why any conservative PAC exists. Do you think that Taiwanese and Ukrainian politicians are just bribing everyone, and there is no benefit to the US ruling class from supporting these military occupations? What about the Philippines lol? It's not just direct colonial powers, a regional subimperialist state that oppresses all the other states and its internal populations retivitalizes the colonial extraction system and destroys unwanted means of production.
The era of colonization has ended though. The imperialists could have just as easily influenced a Palestinian state, like they have done with the gulf states and Ukraine, Taiwan, and the Phillipines to bow to the empire. Notice how the imperialists didn't import an entire ethnic group into those countries, they just imported their ideologies.
They already did it with the Palestinian Authority, any country that shows the slightest pushback against the imperialists gets blown to pieces or overthrown. See Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria.
Why prop up a colonial entity when we've moved past that stage of imperialism? The masses became "woke" to colonialism post-WWII and most imperialist countries instead have a way to make their evils less transparent in their ways of controlling another country's resources. Color revolutions, "soft-power" via predatory IMF loans with clauses demanding for privatization of infrastructure are ways to name a few.
Why go through all this effort manufacturing fake historical justifications for why this type of colonization is good, when they already have the gulf states and the Palestinian Authority as loyal servants to the empire?
Edit: even the Xinhua Institute says pre-WW2 colonization is dead. Enough with the vibes-based analysis.
This is literally the ACP reactionary line.
How? Do you think any country will be able to invade another country and settle their own citizens after enslaving or genociding the original inhabitants? Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't happen anymore. It's much easier to have plausible deniability on the world stage if your colony is not a direct extension of your own citizens.
Apparently the Xinhua Institute's Colonization of the Mind was actually the ACP's tricknology infecting China.
It is happening right now in Israel....
Because the foreign lobby has made them an exception to the rule...
I think theres some additional nuance to OP's position. Theyre not arguing AIPAC doesn't exert tremendous pressure on USian politics, they're saying that it does so as part of a larger colonial process which the US is bought into.
Also, AIPAC isnt the same as Israel, I believe its leadership is most evangelicals
AIPAC's leadership are not mostly evangelicals. their dogs in the government are evangelicals/christian zionists but AIPAC themselves are lead by israelis who are jewish. (not that them being jewish is relevant to that, i just mean, they're not evangelicals)
The original title of this post was something like "Israel does not control American politicians" so you can understand why people might have gotten confused.
Yes, but the claim that they're the US's dog on a leash is not entirely true. They have consistently operated in their own interests and against the US's interests many, many times. The US depleted their anti-air missile stockpiles during the 10-day war with Iran.
Entrapping pedophile politicians and bugging the president don't seem like something a loyal dog would do. If Britain, France, or Germany acted in the ways that "israel" did they would be invaded.
just because the attack dog sometimes does stuff we don't like doesn't mean we don't hold the leash. america allows israel to exist because despite some minor transgressions it still materially benefits them to do so. individual politicians can believe all sorts of dumb shit but it doesn't change the fundamental power dynamic behind them
But what is the point? They already captured the gulf monarchies. They have military bases in every single one of these countries except for "israel".
If anything the maintenance of the zionist entity is causing more harm than good to the interests of the imperialists. Mass protests at the "israeli" embassy in Jordan. Jordan's president is already an imperialist dog who received an education in England and sends his kids to Georgetown University in America, with Jordanian police teargassing and shooting at their own civilians. Pakistan, a US ally, killed 4 people as protestors mobilized against the genocide. "israel" bombed Qatar, a country that actively hosts a US military base. They've been annexing Syrian land and bombing Damascus, even after the US puppet Jolani was installed.
None of these are "minor transgressions"
i agree that the bombing of qatar seemed to be a bridge too far for america. that's why they yanked the leash so fast. at the same time, they did yank the leash. if isfake has become a net liability, it would be a relatively recent development. still, i'm thinking the iran strikes more than justified their utility to the imperial bourgeoisie