Israeli and Zionist influence in the USA is a purposeful choice of the American government. It allows the American government to circumvent many domestic and international laws by allowing Israeli firms to do the spying and dirty work for them. Israel is essentially a rogue state that is entirely controlled by the American intelligence apparatus (and therefore, American capital). This has created a feedback loop of constantly reinforcing settler colonialism and American economic extraction of the Middle East. If America withdrew support to Israel, this feedback loop would cease and Israel would be greatly diminished or completely collapse.

Saying Israel controls America is simply wrong, stop saying this. I will remove your post. ✌️

edit: altered title for clarification and to avoid nonsensical semantic arguments

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[–] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think theres some additional nuance to OP's position. Theyre not arguing AIPAC doesn't exert tremendous pressure on USian politics, they're saying that it does so as part of a larger colonial process which the US is bought into.

Also, AIPAC isnt the same as Israel, I believe its leadership is most evangelicals

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

AIPAC's leadership are not mostly evangelicals. their dogs in the government are evangelicals/christian zionists but AIPAC themselves are lead by israelis who are jewish. (not that them being jewish is relevant to that, i just mean, they're not evangelicals)

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

I think theres some additional nuance to OP's position. Theyre not arguing AIPAC doesn't exert tremendous pressure on USian politics, they're saying that it does so as part of a larger colonial process which the US is bought into.

The original title of this post was something like "Israel does not control American politicians" so you can understand why people might have gotten confused.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Yes, but the claim that they're the US's dog on a leash is not entirely true. They have consistently operated in their own interests and against the US's interests many, many times. The US depleted their anti-air missile stockpiles during the 10-day war with Iran.

Entrapping pedophile politicians and bugging the president don't seem like something a loyal dog would do. If Britain, France, or Germany acted in the ways that "israel" did they would be invaded.